Opera’s founder calls for a ban on tracking on Facebook and Google

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Post by tolt » Thu, May 25, 2017, 1:54 PM UTC

Opera’s founder calls for a ban on tracking on Facebook and Google
wired.co.uk

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Post by digi_owl » Thu, May 25, 2017, 4:36 PM UTC

I hate to say it, but Oslo Freedom Forum has a checkered history.

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Post by ghughes » Thu, May 25, 2017, 4:44 PM UTC

digi_owl wrote: post #2

I hate to say it, but Oslo Freedom Forum has a checkered history.

You hate to say it, yet you were able to ignore the substance of the article and say it anyway.

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Post by theprop » Thu, May 25, 2017, 5:09 PM UTC

Nice thoughts on privacy. Vivaldi is good, but the Epic Privacy Browser is better and it also blocks a lot of Facebook & Google tracking.

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Post by yuhong » Thu, May 25, 2017, 5:15 PM UTC

Looks like their argument is that "We don't need ads that are personal. You can just get ads that are based on location."

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Post by mankyd » Thu, May 25, 2017, 5:21 PM UTC

yuhong wrote: post #5

Looks like their argument is that "We don't need ads that are personal. You can just get ads that are based on location."

And yet...

To make up an example, when I walk into a movie theater, I prefer to see ads for movies that I might actually go see. If I have kids, I might be interested in the latest G-rated film. If I don't, that probably won't tempt me.

Location alone doesn't tell you that info. I kind of like getting at least some specificity and personalization with my ads.

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Post by mirimir » Thu, May 25, 2017, 5:36 PM UTC

yuhong wrote: post #5

Looks like their argument is that "We don't need ads that are personal. You can just get ads that are based on location."

I don't want those either.

But hey, I handle my own bans on tracking. I don't care that everything that this persona does online is tracked and associated. But then, I have other personas.

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Post by binarymax » Thu, May 25, 2017, 5:36 PM UTC

digi_owl wrote: post #2

I hate to say it, but Oslo Freedom Forum has a checkered history.

Please don't fall into the trap of this fallacy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well

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Post by TimJYoung » Thu, May 25, 2017, 5:45 PM UTC

I don't understand why people are so enamored of personalized ads. Advertising was around a long time before personalized ads were even a thing, yet it managed to still work by targeting publications that matched the target customer. This was accomplished by geographic location, for general consumer ads, or by interest, for targeted ads, B2B, etc.

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Post by datatan » Thu, May 25, 2017, 5:46 PM UTC

mankyd wrote: post #6

yuhong wrote: post #5

Looks like their argument is that "We don't need ads that are personal. You can just get ads that are based on location."

And yet... To make up an example, when I walk into a movie theater, I prefer to see ads for movies that I might actually go see. If I have kids, I might be interested in the latest G-rated film. If I don't, that probably won't tempt me. Location alone doesn't tell you that info. I kind of like getting at least some specificity and personalization with my ads.

If I walk into a theatre I don't want to see ads because I'm paying to be there.