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Accelerationism: how a fringe philosophy predicted the future we live in

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Re: Accelerationism: how a fringe philosophy predicted the future we live in

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TL;DR: It's just communism by another name.

Meh. Seems to me like these are really the Vinge / Kurzweil crowd, and the offshoots of that trend. The commie connection seems to be the author's interpretation (unsurprising given the journal that's published the article).

Re: Accelerationism: how a fringe philosophy predicted the future we live in

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TL;DR: It's just communism by another name.

I don't think you read it. It is really complex and actually hypercapitalistic, and nationalistic in its basic form. It advocates for advancement of their perception of humanity over all else. The newest iteration even advocates for independent, authoritative nation states! I concede the article also discusses a branch that goes left, and yes it is probably closest to social democracy.

Re: Accelerationism: how a fringe philosophy predicted the future we live in

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TL;DR: It's just communism by another name.

Not quite what the article talks about, but Accelerationism in communist/anarchist thought is the notion that you either permit capitalism to go off the rails without hindering it or even encourage it actively. The goal is to "show it for what it really is" and make things so unpalatable that a worker uprising is inevitable (or at least more likely).

So in that view, an accelerationist could be a socialist who opposes things like minimum wage, universal health care, privacy rights legislation, etc.

Re: Accelerationism: how a fringe philosophy predicted the future we live in

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TL;DR: It's just communism by another name.

I was wondering if you could expand on this. It seems like a comment someone would make if they are either entirely unfamiliar with accelerationism, or if they have a deep understanding of it - I'm curious if you fall into either of those camps :)

The reason I say that is that Land claims to be utterly opposed to communism - his favorite suggestion is that communists should be dropped out of helicopters into the ocean (cf Pinochet).

On the other hand, I'm not entirely convinced that he's not a "deep cover" agent of socialism/communism - after all, that's where his sympathies initially were before his "conversion". For example it's possible he thinks accelerationism is the path to the predicted end-stage or utopia version of communism - a classless society with free access to the articles of consumption.

Re: Accelerationism: how a fringe philosophy predicted the future we live in

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I really don't see what the article's accelerationism has to do with the notion as used in Lord of Light. In spite of the Hindu religion references, that is definitely not a philosophy/politics book.

It is Zelazny's best book in my opinion, and you can read it - it has little to nothing to do with the Guardian's article.

Re: Accelerationism: how a fringe philosophy predicted the future we live in

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I really don't see what the article's accelerationism has to do with the notion as used in Lord of Light. In spite of the Hindu religion references, that is definitely not a philosophy/politics book. It is Zelazny's best book in my opinion, and you can read it - it has little to nothing to do with the Guardian's article.

Absolutely agreed. This seems to be a simple case of confusing a number of largely unrelated things just because the names given them are the same. If I were the author, I'd be embarrassed over spending so much time and proverbial ink over what is essentially a misunderstanding of concepts.
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