The Turds Who Voted to Sell Out Your Online Privacy Get Their Faces Plastered
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Re: The Turds Who Voted to Sell Out Your Online Privacy Get Their Faces Plastered
#2I don't imagine they literally package sensitive information and distribute it to anyone who pays. In which case, "they sell your data" is completely misleading.
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#3At my core, I believe everyone, regardless of affiliation or beliefs has a right to online privacy.
On the other, man do I freaking wish that one of the big porn sites would put up a billboard with the (private) sexual fetishes of these specific elected officials.
Edit: I would wish more for the latter if I thought it would change anything.
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#4This campaign does a great job of calling out Senators who sold out their voters.
I'd like to see us also call out the companies that buy the data from the telecoms. Just because it is legal, doesn't mean it is right. I'm not sure how one would track down who purchased the data, but if a billboard said "X bought your data without your consent", would shaming the purchaser also be a possibility?
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#5Is this really the new normal for websites ?
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#6Can someone explain what "selling web browsing and app usage data" really means? I don't imagine they literally package sensitive information and distribute it to anyone who pays. In which case, "they sell your data" is completely misleading.
Why on earth don't you imagine that? On this website alone, there are quite literally stories every week about various companies doing that exact thing.
E.g.: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2017/04/23/heartbreaking
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#7There are two sides to the 'value' equation here. The telecoms can now sell your data, but that also means that somebody needs to be buying it on the other end. This campaign does a great job of calling out Senators who sold out their voters. I'd like to see us also call out the companies that buy the data from the telecoms. Just because it is legal, doesn't mean it is right. I'm not sure how one would track down who…
Anybody who says otherwise is lying or ignorant of the law regarding CPNI.
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2015-title47-vol3/pdf/CFR-...
Re: The Turds Who Voted to Sell Out Your Online Privacy Get Their Faces Plastered
#8There are two sides to the 'value' equation here. The telecoms can now sell your data, but that also means that somebody needs to be buying it on the other end. This campaign does a great job of calling out Senators who sold out their voters. I'd like to see us also call out the companies that buy the data from the telecoms. Just because it is legal, doesn't mean it is right. I'm not sure how one would track down who…
No they can't. It Has been illegal for nearly a century and it id still is illegal to sell telecommunication customers' data. Congress just reversed the FCC rules from October. It has to do with an government agency overstepping their authority and nothing to do with privacy. Anybody who says otherwise is lying or ignorant of the law regarding CPNI. https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2015-title47-vol3/pdf/CFR-...
ACLU: https://www.aclu.org/news/aclu-comment-congressional-move-al...
EFF: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/five-creepy-things-you...
The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/mar/28/internet-...
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#9Off topic, but such a crass title makes me instantly disinterested in whatever the article has to say, even if I'm likely to agree with its content. Is this really the new normal for websites ?
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#10There are two sides to the 'value' equation here. The telecoms can now sell your data, but that also means that somebody needs to be buying it on the other end. This campaign does a great job of calling out Senators who sold out their voters. I'd like to see us also call out the companies that buy the data from the telecoms. Just because it is legal, doesn't mean it is right. I'm not sure how one would track down who…
No they can't. It Has been illegal for nearly a century and it id still is illegal to sell telecommunication customers' data. Congress just reversed the FCC rules from October. It has to do with an government agency overstepping their authority and nothing to do with privacy. Anybody who says otherwise is lying or ignorant of the law regarding CPNI. https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2015-title47-vol3/pdf/CFR-...
> It has to do with an government agency overstepping their authority
I've seen this horseshit repeated ad naseum.The U.S. Telecommunications Act of 1996 granted the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) authority to regulate how customer proprietary network information (CPNI) can be used and to enforce related consumer information privacy provisions. In 2015, Broadband Internet Service Providers were reclassified as telecommunications companies, meaning that these rules will apply to them. They are not an information service. Google is an information service. They provide me with an internet connection, they do not provide me with any content at all and no consumer expects that from them.
Do you understand that an Act has to be passed by both Houses of Congress and signed by the president? I don't know how much more legitimate authority can get when you are granted authority by our elected representatives.
> and nothing to do with privacy.
From the very first sentence of the FCC's 2007 REPORT AND ORDER AND FURTHER NOTICE OF PROPOSED RULEMAKING [0]
"In this Order, the Commission responds to the practice of “pretexting” by strengthening our rules to protect the privacy of customer proprietary network information (CPNI)"
>It Has been illegal for nearly a century and it id still is illegal to sell telecommunication customers' data.
FALSE
AGAIN, from the FCC's 2007 REPORT AND ORDER AND FURTHER NOTICE OF PROPOSED RULEMAKING [0]
"We modify our rules to require telecommunications carriers to obtain opt-in consent from a customer before disclosing that customer’s CPNI to a carrier’s joint venture partner or independent contractor for the purpose of marketing communications-related services to that customer.117 While we realize that this is a change in Commission policy, we find that new circumstances force us to reassess our existing regulations. As we have found previously, the Commission has a substantial interest in protecting customer privacy."
"Based on this and in light of new privacy concerns, we now find that an opt-in framework for the sharing of CPNI with joint venture partners and independent contractors for the purposes of marketing communications-related services to a customer both directly advances our interest in protecting customer privacy and is narrowly tailored to achieve our goal of privacy protection"
"Joint Venture and Independent Contractor Use of CPNI. We modify our rules to require carriers to obtain opt-in consent from a customer before disclosing a customer’s CPNI to a carrier’s joint venture partners or independent contractors for the purposes of marketing communicationsrelated services to that customer."
> https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2015-title47-vol3/pdf/CFR-...
So do you think you can link to an obtuse document written in legalese, hoping that no one will read it? These are the rules from 2015...8 years after the FCC changed how telcos may use your CPNI
Just reading the rest of your comment history, do you do this for profit or for pleasure?
[0]: https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-07-22A1.pd...