Facebook staff reject female engineers’ code more often, former employee claims
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Re: Facebook staff reject female engineers’ code more often, former employee claims
#2Basically a dupe of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14247221
The Verge is using the WSJ as the source.
Re: Facebook staff reject female engineers’ code more often, former employee claims
#3I think the industry is suffering from the cobra effect right now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect
Re: Facebook staff reject female engineers’ code more often, former employee claims
#4I think the industry is suffering from the cobra effect right now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect
Can you elaborate?
Re: Facebook staff reject female engineers’ code more often, former employee claims
#5Can't read the linked article. Did the study look further into the gender bias assumptions beyond the simple female vs male statistic (e.g by anonymizing code submissions)?
Re: Facebook staff reject female engineers’ code more often, former employee claims
#6I think the industry is suffering from the cobra effect right now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect
Care to elaborate on how the cobra effect relates here?
Re: Facebook staff reject female engineers’ code more often, former employee claims
#7Can't read the linked article. Did the study look further into the gender bias assumptions beyond the simple female vs male statistic (e.g by anonymizing code submissions)?
Exactly. Maybe the code needed to be rejected. Many developers have no problem pointing out issues in code. Anyone's code. You can see it daily on stackoverflow. Just because it happens to be a female from time to time makes it newsworthy.
Re: Facebook staff reject female engineers’ code more often, former employee claims
#8Can't read the linked article. Did the study look further into the gender bias assumptions beyond the simple female vs male statistic (e.g by anonymizing code submissions)?
> Facebook, alarmed by this data, commissioned a second study by Jay Parikh, its head of infrastructure, to investigate any potential issues. Parikh’s findings suggested that the code rejections were due to engineering rank, not gender. However, Facebook employees now speculate that Parikh’s findings mean female engineers might not be rising in the ranks as fast as male counterparts who joined the company at the same time, or perhaps that female engineers are leaving the company more often before being promoted.
Re: Facebook staff reject female engineers’ code more often, former employee claims
#9I think the industry is suffering from the cobra effect right now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_effect
I'm interested in how the Cobra Effect applies to an analysis.
Re: Facebook staff reject female engineers’ code more often, former employee claims
#10Can't read the linked article. Did the study look further into the gender bias assumptions beyond the simple female vs male statistic (e.g by anonymizing code submissions)?
There were two studies, one that was unofficial (just an engineer looking at commits) that found the quoted result. It looked at gender adjusted by tenure. This study didn't have the resources to do that.
Then there was a second cover-your-ass study by Facebook HR that found that if you adjust gender by seniority/rank the bias went away. This raised the question of why female engineers were at lower ranks after the same amount of time on staff. It might be explained by prior work experience, or starting rank, but it might not be. From the articles on this it looks like they (fb) don't actually want to answer this question.