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Re: The Future of OmniOS

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Post by radiowave »

Sad but understandable. I certainly recognise the divergance he mentions between the goal of it being a high-scale web computing platform, versus the ZFS storage server that many people (myself included) actually use it for. I suspect most people using an Illumos distro to do the former are running Joyent's SmartOS instead, and this leaves the OmniTI folks in a difficult position - how much time and resource ought they devote to (for example) integrating Joyent's work on running Linux containers, and to what end?

Re: The Future of OmniOS

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Post by cthalupa »

radiowave wrote: post #3

Sad but understandable. I certainly recognise the divergance he mentions between the goal of it being a high-scale web computing platform, versus the ZFS storage server that many people (myself included) actually use it for. I suspect most people using an Illumos distro to do the former are running Joyent's SmartOS instead, and this leaves the OmniTI folks in a difficult position - how much time and resource ought th…

OmniOS currently does support lxzones

https://omnios.omniti.com/wiki.php/LXZones

Re: The Future of OmniOS

#5

Post by zokier »

> OmniTI will be suspending active development of OmniOS

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> We still run quite a bit of infrastructure on OmniOS and expect to continue contributing

I'm not sure how to interpret this. They will simultaneously suspend development and continue contributions? That seems contradictory.

Re: The Future of OmniOS

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Post by daveguy »

zokier wrote: post #5

> OmniTI will be suspending active development of OmniOS ... > We still run quite a bit of infrastructure on OmniOS and expect to continue contributing I'm not sure how to interpret this. They will simultaneously suspend development and continue contributions? That seems contradictory.

That means it will probably be limited to bugfix/maintenance efforts.

Re: The Future of OmniOS

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Post by hackbinary »

My understanding of what happened to OpenSolaris after Sun/Oracle abandoned/closed the project is: Illumos develops the base/core for open source OpenSolaris based derivative distributions of which OmniOS is one of about 11 or so.

It seems to me, unfortunately, that since there are so many OpenSolaris descendant distros, and that Linux can only barely sustain 3 large commercially supported general purpose distros (Redhat, Ubuntu & Suse, but please correct if I am wrong), that there has to be some amount of consolidation that needs to/will take place if OpenSolaris/Illumon is to survive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illumos#Current_distributions

Re: The Future of OmniOS

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Post by kasabali »

hackbinary wrote: post #7

My understanding of what happened to OpenSolaris after Sun/Oracle abandoned/closed the project is: Illumos develops the base/core for open source OpenSolaris based derivative distributions of which OmniOS is one of about 11 or so. It seems to me, unfortunately, that since there are so many OpenSolaris descendant distros, and that Linux can only barely sustain 3 large commercially supported general purpose distros (Re…

I'm just an outsider to the Illumos community so take this with a grain of salt, but based on what I gather from checking it time to time I don't think this is the main reason.

11 is just the number of currently active distributions and is not meaningful for getting an idea of where the most stuff happens (By the same logic Distrowatch lists 288 active Linux distributions). There is only few main distributions with most mindshare (SmartOS, OpenIndiana and OmniOS. Nexenta is also a big one but I heard they don't get along well with the upstream).

Illumos is the upstream base and AFAIK Illumos community and distribution communities are indeed in tight relationship where the contributions to individual distributions find their way into the base not a long time later. And as a project it has a larger scope compared say, just the Linux kernel. It is the kernel, drivers, base libraries, core utilities etc. so developers on these different areas still belong to same tight community.

Re: The Future of OmniOS

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Post by hackbinary »

kasabali wrote: post #8
hackbinary wrote: post #7

My understanding of what happened to OpenSolaris after Sun/Oracle abandoned/closed the project is: Illumos develops the base/core for open source OpenSolaris based derivative distributions of which OmniOS is one of about 11 or so. It seems to me, unfortunately, that since there are so many OpenSolaris descendant distros, and that Linux can only barely sustain 3 large commercially supported general purpose distros (Re…

I'm just an outsider to the Illumos community so take this with a grain of salt, but based on what I gather from checking it time to time I don't think this is the main reason. 11 is just the number of currently active distributions and is not meaningful for getting an idea of where the most stuff happens (By the same logic Distrowatch lists 288 active Linux distributions). There is only few main distributions with m…

I think you nailed my point. Linux (according to Distrowatch) has 288 distros, and there are only 3 large scale commercially supported distros (for linux), so my question is in the world can illumos support more than one? What open source lets competing organisations do is collaborate on shared projects.
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