First YouTube now Google being banned in Turkey

There is a tension before something breaks or action happens (spannungsbogen?). So I am glad that this is a major fuckup, with possible commercial backlash.

The previous YouTube ban was a DNS deletion from the Turkish DNSes. This was naturally avoided by people using Google's DNS anyway. Most people I know either use Google's DNS or some other open dns even if somebody set it up for them and they don't know about it.

And now there is a "deny all Google IPs, allow search and few other things like Maps, Reader and Picasa" ban across all Google domains.

This is funny and quite serious at the same time.

Ah, it cannot possibly have an effect on me, I think. I pay for servers in UK, Germany and USA. I can reroute myself however I want. But what about my friends... This is not a ban they can avoid easily. Oh wait... Check out my Nexus One. Bingo, all those sites don't mention it, but now I cannot enter Android Market or use any of Google's apps. The thing is almost bricked.

This is why things like Cynogenmod are a "Good Thing (TM)". Hey, YouTube on the Android works, which is most probably what the ban is trying to nuke. Ironic as always.

The reason is probably the way Google handles DNS and how it tricked the censors into banning everything while they were trying to "actually" ban YouTube IP block.

Now you got companies that are complaining because they cannot get into their docs.google.com. Most sites have their loading spinners stuck on spinning because you cannot reach analytics. Guess what, Google isn't just providing search anymore.

It maybe that it is time to react for most people now. The People. Oh wait, that includes me. Hmmmmmm.....

http://www.mhs.ox.ac.uk/blackboard/benn-l.htm

If you are indeed an ISP as your profile says, your job would be to reroute the wrongly banned traffic so that it does not get dropped by Turk Telekom. Advertise it here, and I would switch to your services. The law doesn't prevent you from laying the cable.

These are unvalidated rumours, as you point out.

This looks to me like something I never thought would happen; it's one step worse than the usual proceedings of network expansion by "dumb-greedy" suits in charge at ISPs - just lay one cheap channel of copper, don't spend extra on fiber, then dig the lane up again when bandwidth is short and put another channel of cheap copper, then dig up again, and again, instead of just laying down fiber from the start and be done with it for years ahead for one tenth the cost of digging the lane up - but instead, these brilliant suits cut all their costs by just selectively choking the web infront of their customers. What an utterly backwards, bone-headed move.

I understand that you are implying, that as an ISP owner you have received no instructions from the government to further impose IP level restrictions on YouTube. That is how you would know.

Now, as an ISP owner, if you only use Turk Telekom (current "Ma Bell" of Turkey) as your backbone, then you also did nothing to improve your own backbone. Then you would also be guilty of the same flaw you mentioned.

But on the off chance that you actually do have your own fast backbone and the most likely chance that there are no restrictions on Google's sites other than YouTube... Today is the day, you should be advertising, by word of mouth, by _anything_ that how we can reach all the sites if we use your ISP.

If not, it is not really _your_ job.