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Python is Slow, and I Don't Care

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Re: Python is Slow, and I Don't Care

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You should care. PHP7 cared about speed and it was a success.

Python 3 cared pretty much everything else except for speed and now 10 years had passed it didn't go anywhere.

Re: Python is Slow, and I Don't Care

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post #2

You should care. PHP7 cared about speed and it was a success. Python 3 cared pretty much everything else except for speed and now 10 years had passed it didn't go anywhere.

Ya, I guess the title is slightly misleading. But the point is that speed isnt everything. I will still use Python regardless of it being slow. That being said, Python3 is actually faster than python2 for most things, IIRC

Re: Python is Slow, and I Don't Care

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post #2

You should care. PHP7 cared about speed and it was a success. Python 3 cared pretty much everything else except for speed and now 10 years had passed it didn't go anywhere.

Python 3's long road to full adoption is much more about mishandling major breaking changes than it is about lack of performance optimizations.

Re: Python is Slow, and I Don't Care

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A counterexample is Celery when used for things such as network IO. You can't scale horizontally because each process creates a database connection, and you'd need a giant database server just to handle a bunch of network IO. The Celery code would probably have to get its parameters from a cache or somewhere that's not the database, but this breaks their suggested use case of accessing the database models when the task actually executes.

Re: Python is Slow, and I Don't Care

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Speed and Concurrency Matters! Golang has outperformed python in both these areas. If it wasn't for the rich ecosystem for data analysis/ Devops libraries (Scikit, Numpy, Scipy, Ansible) in Python. I would have long moved to Golang.

Re: Python is Slow, and I Don't Care

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"A company’s most expensive resource is now its employee’s time. Or in other words, you. It’s more important to get stuff done then to make it go fast."

Now take this sentence and apply it to the end user of your software.

Re: Python is Slow, and I Don't Care

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not caring about performance destroys faith in projects. if the things we write can't be as performant as we like, we'll use a different language and your project will fade.

pretty simple concept. surprised that people don't understand that.

(mind you, python is about as performant as I like for the tasks I use it for, so ymmv with the above.)

Re: Python is Slow, and I Don't Care

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post #7

"A company’s most expensive resource is now its employee’s time. Or in other words, you. It’s more important to get stuff done then to make it go fast." Now take this sentence and apply it to the end user of your software.

Maybe I'm daft, but I don't quite understand what your getting at.
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