Is Fat Killing Us, or Is Sugar?

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Post by kmf » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 7:44 PM UTC

Is Fat Killing Us, or Is Sugar?
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Re: Is Fat Killing Us, or Is Sugar?

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Post by bigbugbag » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 7:56 PM UTC

There's a BBC Horizon episodes with two identical twins, one goes for the low fat diet and the other for low carb diet to test which one is worse.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03t8r4h http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1amh2t_bbc-horizon-sugar-v...

Re: Is Fat Killing Us, or Is Sugar?

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Post by mkaziz » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 8:32 PM UTC

bigbugbag wrote: post #2

There's a BBC Horizon episodes with two identical twins, one goes for the low fat diet and the other for low carb diet to test which one is worse. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03t8r4h http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1amh2t_bbc-horizon-sugar-v...

Do you have a quick synopsis of what happens?

Re: Is Fat Killing Us, or Is Sugar?

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Post by Danihan » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 8:32 PM UTC

bigbugbag wrote: post #2

There's a BBC Horizon episodes with two identical twins, one goes for the low fat diet and the other for low carb diet to test which one is worse. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03t8r4h http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1amh2t_bbc-horizon-sugar-v...

Spoil it for me, I don't have time to watch at work..

Also, what kind of fat? Saturated fats are very stable and easily used by the body -- in my opinion they have very very different health effects compared to cheap, polyunsaturated fats.

Re: Is Fat Killing Us, or Is Sugar?

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 8:32 PM UTC

bigbugbag wrote: post #2

There's a BBC Horizon episodes with two identical twins, one goes for the low fat diet and the other for low carb diet to test which one is worse. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03t8r4h http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1amh2t_bbc-horizon-sugar-v...

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Re: Is Fat Killing Us, or Is Sugar?

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Post by parenthephobia » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 8:33 PM UTC

Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13980272

Re: Is Fat Killing Us, or Is Sugar?

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Post by blakesterz » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 8:33 PM UTC

bigbugbag wrote: post #2

There's a BBC Horizon episodes with two identical twins, one goes for the low fat diet and the other for low carb diet to test which one is worse. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03t8r4h http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1amh2t_bbc-horizon-sugar-v...

I skipped to the last few minutes of that, they seem to do a nice summary...

"avoid processed foods"

"All faddish diets are wrong and exercise is important"

"the combination of fat and sugar is bad" (not just one or the other but foods full of both like donuts are bad)

Re: Is Fat Killing Us, or Is Sugar?

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Post by sqeaky » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 8:33 PM UTC

Why not both? Why not neither?

Re: Is Fat Killing Us, or Is Sugar?

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Post by Danihan » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 8:34 PM UTC

mkaziz wrote: post #3

bigbugbag wrote: post #2

There's a BBC Horizon episodes with two identical twins, one goes for the low fat diet and the other for low carb diet to test which one is worse. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03t8r4h http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1amh2t_bbc-horizon-sugar-v...

Do you have a quick synopsis of what happens?

http://www.drbriffa.com/2014/01/30/my-take-on-the-horizon-do...

Re: Is Fat Killing Us, or Is Sugar?

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Post by ellyagg » Wed, Mar 29, 2017, 8:34 PM UTC

Neither by themselves, but when combined...

I read somewhere that when they want to fatten up lab mice they feed them a mixture of 70% sugar and 30% fat or something similar. When you make something much more delicious and available than what appears in nature, it screws with an animal's energy balance signals.