Blacks with no criminal record have same sucess geting jobs as whites out prison
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#2Hard numbers are ugly numbers. This is important stuff.
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#3Could the headline be a little clearer? The typos in particular threw me off...
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#4Are there techniques for neutralizing the effects of things like race during the hiring process that could help make these sorts of decisions more objective?
I'm reading The Undoing Project by Michael Lewis and it digs into things like this with great enthusiasm. Making people aware of their own inherent biases and devising criteria that help make objective decisions is not easy, but often necessary. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Undoing_Project)
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#5The headline makes it sound like "blacks who get out of prison with no criminal record have same success getting jobs as whites". That's how I read it, anyway, and I was wondering how you get out of prison without a criminal record. :)
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#6There are studies that show that given names associated with black culture are less successful in the job market.
http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873
Not only in the job market but, also receive a worse treatment at schools and libraries.
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#7"Why do we discriminate? The big factor isn’t overt racism. Rather, it seems to be unconscious bias among whites who believe in equality but act in ways that perpetuate inequality."
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Aliefs[1] are a useful concept here. i.e. You may believe in equality but, thanks to the culture you live in, act against that belief unconsciously. There are a lot of reasons for people to alieve that blacks are less employable. Take, for example, Gangsta rap and it's continuing popularity. Here you have an art-form that glorifies materialism, violence, and lawlessness and is dominated by black artists. Few employers are likely to explicitly believe it is logical to fear or mistrust black job applicants because of gangsta rap, but its popularity nevertheless plants aliefs that contribute to the difficulties faced by black job-seekers.
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"Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, an eminent sociologist, calls this unconscious bias “racism without racists,” and we whites should be less defensive about it. This bias affects blacks as well as whites, and we also have unconscious biases about gender, disability, body size and age. You can explore your own unconscious biases in a free online test, called the implicit association test."
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It's important to draw a distinction between acting on racist beliefs and racist aliefs. Some would say the latter is being racist without knowing it, which is offensive to most and probably counterproductive to say. At present, racists are popularly viewed as demons to be mocked and punished. Even if there is a basis for calling someone acting on their aliefs racist, doing so is going to offend and hurt them and likely turn them against you. Subtler language is required here.
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#8Are there techniques for neutralizing the effects of things like race during the hiring process that could help make these sorts of decisions more objective? I'm reading The Undoing Project by Michael Lewis and it digs into things like this with great enthusiasm. Making people aware of their own inherent biases and devising criteria that help make objective decisions is not easy, but often necessary. ( https://en.wik…
Blinding.
An example is orchestras. They use a screen so that the people deciding between musicians can't see the person auditioning.
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#9That's because racism is just the extreme version of difference intolerence. Doesn't matter what the original group has in common, they will gang up on who is different, whatever the difference. The conversation shouldn't be limited to racial matters, the problem is lack of awareness that difference in and of itself causes the unaware to oppress.
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#10"Why do we discriminate? The big factor isn’t overt racism. Rather, it seems to be unconscious bias among whites who believe in equality but act in ways that perpetuate inequality." -------- Aliefs[1] are a useful concept here. i.e. You may believe in equality but, thanks to the culture you live in, act against that belief unconsciously. There are a lot of reasons for people to alieve that blacks are less employable.…
"Aliefs" are what I think of as the "privilege" in "white privilege." It's very real. We have distinct, systemic advantages that influence how we interact with others who aren't white, and one way this manifests is through this sort of "racism without racists" concept.