How Uber Used Secret “Greyball” Tool to Deceive Authorities Worldwide
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#2DAYUUUUUMMMM!! Savage
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#3Uber's disregard for local laws and regulations is well known, so I find it hard to be shocked by this.
But the chutzpah to implement something so blatantly designed to aide in breaking the law is still surprising. It reminds me of Zenefits in a way.
It also seems similar to VW's Diesel engine "Defeat Device". The future of technology will probably include ever more shady uses of programming to mislead regulators and the like.
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#4Are there legal grounds here for a court decision against Uber based on this?
I suppose the answer depends on the nation or state in which this tactic was deployed.
This behavior doesn't surprise me based on their strategy of negotiation regarding regulation.
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#5Uber is having a very bad month.
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#6How diabolical!
In a world where privacy has been traded away for convenience, it's poetic justice where a startup uses data mining techniques to subvert the government. This is the same government that would have no issues to use the same techniques to spy on its own people for its own motives.
I'm neither on Uber nor the government's side in this case, just simply making an observation. The lack of data privacy seems to be a double-edged sword for users and government/law enforcement alike.
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#7How things like this remain secrets for so long is astounding to me. By definition of what the day to day of driving strangers around Uber has hundreds of drivers who hate their job yet it took this long for these stories to start finding their way into the press.
With Volkswagon cheating the system it was a small group of engineers and covert approval from the top that explained how they could get away with it for so long.
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#8I'm not excusing Uber at all because what they've done is extremely bad in multiple cases but find it strange all these hit pieces are coming out of the wood works. There is a large section of society that hates Uber and will spring at any chance to bring it down. Which is partially what I think happened with the whole #boycottUber thing and the new video of kalanick yelling at the driver.
However, the sexism and dysfunction in the company is extremely disturbing. It almost starts to undermine the case against them when there are all these hit jobs coming out and it starts to seem that the media is biased or relishing their fall.
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#9A shadowban of a sort. Very effective.
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#10I'm not excusing Uber at all because what they've done is extremely bad in multiple cases but find it strange all these hit pieces are coming out of the wood works. There is a large section of society that hates Uber and will spring at any chance to bring it down. Which is partially what I think happened with the whole #boycottUber thing and the new video of kalanick yelling at the driver. However, the sexism and dys…
This was leaked by their own employees. Including current ones.