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What's Really Warming the World?

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Re: What's Really Warming the World?

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I was actually at a political event yesterday where some derp derp conservative was going on about how this stuff is all hoax.

Meanwhile, we are in upstate NY, in late February, sitting outside enjoying the 80 degree weather which is warmer than Los Angeles.

Re: What's Really Warming the World?

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What makes me mad about these kinds of data based climate change arguments is that they don't engage with the data in an honest way.

The huge problem is 1880 was one of the coldest years in history. That cold period was caused by volcanism, several volcanos erupted causing a cold period that lasted from the 1600s to the late 1800s. This period is known as the little ice age. The worst of this period was in 1816 which was known as the "year without a summer." The Earth has gradually been warming since then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

So when we track from the little ice age to now and say the world as gotten warmer and present this as unusual or surprising findings, you know that they are not being honest with you.

I'm not saying that climate change isn't happening, I'm not saying it isn't man made. All I'm pointing out here is that proponents of global warming aren't engaging with the facts in an honest and forthright way.

Re: What's Really Warming the World?

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Can someone explain why aerosols are decreasing in their graph?

A definition of what they consider an aerosol would be a good start, which I didn't see on there. Apparently the term can cover a large number of natural and unnatural compositions of matter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerosol

Re: What's Really Warming the World?

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> The only real question is: What are we going to do about it?

Zilch, so long as politicians corrupted by the fossil fuel industry are in power.

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!" -- Upton Sinclair

Re: What's Really Warming the World?

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What is magical about 1880-1910 as the implied "normal" average baseline? Why not 1600? 1400? 2500 BC?

You shouldn't care about what reference is taken. The point is that compared to any reference, the curve is increasing .

800 million years ago is my reference point

Re: What's Really Warming the World?

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What makes me mad about these kinds of data based climate change arguments is that they don't engage with the data in an honest way. The huge problem is 1880 was one of the coldest years in history. That cold period was caused by volcanism, several volcanos erupted causing a cold period that lasted from the 1600s to the late 1800s. This period is known as the little ice age. The worst of this period was in 1816 which…

You're right. However, it's hard to argue with the speed at which this warming occurs. It's never seen before if you look at all the records we have. That's what's worrying.
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