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Re: Newzbin (paid usenet search engine) closes due to legal action

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Post by Batsu »

Since details seem very lacking between the link and the post in the link, here's a short summary Newzbin via Wikiepdia:

"One of the main technologies produced is an XML-based file format called NZB files, which contain a list of messageIDs that are related to specific postings on Usenet. Through the use of these files, Usenet clients are able to directly download material from Usenet without having to pre-fetch the headers for the target group. Thus, the main benefit of the direct link is improving the efficiency of Usenet binaries. It is technologies such as these that are increasing the popularity of Usenet for file sharing."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewzBin

It seems their crime is indexing binaries. This does nothing to stop file sharing through Usenet, just ever so slightly impedes access.

Re: Newzbin (paid usenet search engine) closes due to legal action

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Post by cookiecaper »

Batsu wrote: post #4

Since details seem very lacking between the link and the post in the link, here's a short summary Newzbin via Wikiepdia: "One of the main technologies produced is an XML-based file format called NZB files, which contain a list of messageIDs that are related to specific postings on Usenet. Through the use of these files, Usenet clients are able to directly download material from Usenet without having to pre-fetch the…

I don't know how they get away with this. Google links almost exclusively to copyrighted content, but they're not shut down. Why is Google allowed to exist and other indexes aren't?

Re: Newzbin (paid usenet search engine) closes due to legal action

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Post by jsz0 »

cookiecaper wrote: post #6
Batsu wrote: post #4

Since details seem very lacking between the link and the post in the link, here's a short summary Newzbin via Wikiepdia: "One of the main technologies produced is an XML-based file format called NZB files, which contain a list of messageIDs that are related to specific postings on Usenet. Through the use of these files, Usenet clients are able to directly download material from Usenet without having to pre-fetch the…

I don't know how they get away with this. Google links almost exclusively to copyrighted content, but they're not shut down. Why is Google allowed to exist and other indexes aren't?

A few big differences. Newzbin was charging for access to this catalog of NZB files that overwhelmingly pointed to copyrighted material. Newzbin is located in the UK under the jurisdiction of different copyright enforcement laws. My understanding is, in the UK, the standard is simply knowingly profiting from copyright infringement. Newzbin was making over £1 Million/year. Apparently they also failed to act on take down requests. Seems like a pretty clear cut case to me. It appears the operators of the site did basically nothing to protect themselves and mounted a very weak defense when they were caught.

Re: Newzbin (paid usenet search engine) closes due to legal action

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Post by devicenull »

cookiecaper wrote: post #6
Batsu wrote: post #4

Since details seem very lacking between the link and the post in the link, here's a short summary Newzbin via Wikiepdia: "One of the main technologies produced is an XML-based file format called NZB files, which contain a list of messageIDs that are related to specific postings on Usenet. Through the use of these files, Usenet clients are able to directly download material from Usenet without having to pre-fetch the…

I don't know how they get away with this. Google links almost exclusively to copyrighted content, but they're not shut down. Why is Google allowed to exist and other indexes aren't?

Google has enough money to pay for lawyers.
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