Apple proposes new web 3D graphics API
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Apple proposes new web 3D graphics API
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Re: Apple proposes new web 3D graphics API
#2As someone whos knows almost nothing about 3d graphics and its APIs, how does Vulkan play into all of this? Why should this new API be used instead of adding Vulkan's API to the browser?
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#3So is this supposed to be like a WebVulkan?
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#4Could this be adapted for graphics virtualization, e.g. allowing several VMs to securely and performantly render 3D workloads on a single physical GPU?
Re: Apple proposes new web 3D graphics API
#5So is this supposed to be like a WebVulkan?
No it's WebGPU like it shows in the code. Vulkan is a competing standard and technology.
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#6Hey Apple, how about developing your browsers to support modern web technologies first?
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#7Anything that's not based on the Vulkan spec is just a land-grab by Apple to push their own technologies.
As someone who spends a lot of time in that space I don't really see what this is solving, WebGL is good enough and anyone serious about performance/compute are going to drop down to native anyway.
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#8I feel like Apple are just trying to get in early with a proposal so they don't get forced into supporting Vulkan (and wasting all that effort on Metal).
Mind you, it does at least look like they're trying not to be jerks about it (even if the motivation is somewhat selfish). They specifically mention the competition to Metal and how "webgpu" is ideally an abstraction that'll sit on-top of Vulkan, Metal and Direct3D 12.
It'll be interesting to see how this pans out. Vulkan, Metal and Direct3D 12 are all intentionally very low level, adding a wrapper of any kind may be seen as non-ideal by all parties.
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#9"The major platform technologies in this space are Direct3D 12 from Microsoft, Metal from Apple, and Vulkan from the Khronos Group. While these technologies have similar design concepts, unfortunately none are available across all platforms."
So Apple, the only company not supporting Vulkan on their platforms, is complaining that there isn't a cross-platform solution?
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#10Will it be patent encumbered, like Apple's "proposal" for touch events API?
> Meanwhile, GPU technology has improved and new software APIs have been created to better reflect the designs of modern GPUs. These new APIs exist at a lower level of abstraction and, due to their reduced overhead, generally offer better performance than OpenGL. The major platform technologies in this space are Direct3D 12 from Microsoft, Metal from Apple, and Vulkan from the Khronos Group. While these technologies have similar design concepts, unfortunately none are available across all platforms.
Oh, really? And who is to blame, that Vulkan is not available on Apple platforms?