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Silicon Valley is making plans to move foreign-born workers to Canada

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Re: Silicon Valley is making plans to move foreign-born workers to Canada

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Wasn't the previous Canadian prime minister at least as xenophobic as Trump? (e.g., they revoked a bunch of dual citizens' Canadian citizenship)

What will prevent Canadians from out-crazying the US in the next major election?

(Honest question; Vancouver is a beautiful city, and presumably much less expensive than SF.)

Re: Silicon Valley is making plans to move foreign-born workers to Canada

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Wasn't the previous Canadian prime minister at least as xenophobic as Trump? (e.g., they revoked a bunch of dual citizens' Canadian citizenship) What will prevent Canadians from out-crazying the US in the next major election? (Honest question; Vancouver is a beautiful city, and presumably much less expensive than SF.)

The whole "this is crazy" bit is a matter of opinion only, you understand that, yes?

What tech companies are so upset about is being cut off from their cheap source of exploitable labor. The rest of the huffing and puffing is just a smokescreen to make you forget what they are guilty of.

Re: Silicon Valley is making plans to move foreign-born workers to Canada

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post #3

Wasn't the previous Canadian prime minister at least as xenophobic as Trump? (e.g., they revoked a bunch of dual citizens' Canadian citizenship) What will prevent Canadians from out-crazying the US in the next major election? (Honest question; Vancouver is a beautiful city, and presumably much less expensive than SF.)

WRT citizenship, if I googled it correctly, C-24 requires a terrorism-related conviction, or having obtained the citizenship by misrepresentation or fraud, in order to strip a dual citizen of their Canadian passport. It doesn't seem to be in the same category of things as the sorts of things Trump's doing. I'd say compared with Tories, the Republicans really are in a class of their own.

Re: Silicon Valley is making plans to move foreign-born workers to Canada

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post #3

Wasn't the previous Canadian prime minister at least as xenophobic as Trump? (e.g., they revoked a bunch of dual citizens' Canadian citizenship) What will prevent Canadians from out-crazying the US in the next major election? (Honest question; Vancouver is a beautiful city, and presumably much less expensive than SF.)

House price is about on par with San Fran. You can check it out via mls.ca and look around the Vancouver area. There is and has been a massive amount of money coming into the Vancouver housing market driving things a little crazy.

Re: Silicon Valley is making plans to move foreign-born workers to Canada

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post #3

Wasn't the previous Canadian prime minister at least as xenophobic as Trump? (e.g., they revoked a bunch of dual citizens' Canadian citizenship) What will prevent Canadians from out-crazying the US in the next major election? (Honest question; Vancouver is a beautiful city, and presumably much less expensive than SF.)

The whole "this is crazy" bit is a matter of opinion only, you understand that, yes? What tech companies are so upset about is being cut off from their cheap source of exploitable labor. The rest of the huffing and puffing is just a smokescreen to make you forget what they are guilty of.

Its crazy on a practical level because those tech companies aren't going to lose their cheap source of exploitable Labor..they'll figure a way around it. it's crazy because the country is going to be losing out on so much tax money from these countries Outsourcing and moving their operations overseas or to Canada.

Re: Silicon Valley is making plans to move foreign-born workers to Canada

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post #3

Wasn't the previous Canadian prime minister at least as xenophobic as Trump? (e.g., they revoked a bunch of dual citizens' Canadian citizenship) What will prevent Canadians from out-crazying the US in the next major election? (Honest question; Vancouver is a beautiful city, and presumably much less expensive than SF.)

The previous government was nowhere near the same. Where Trump is openly xenophobic, the Harper Conservatives were more dog whistle stuff, e.g. stripping citizenship from duals who were guilty of terrorist charges and proposing the creation of a hotline to report "barbaric cultural practices".

IMO, the unchanging thing about Canadians is we want to be able to look down our noses at Americans. This is a stupid way to govern, but it runs deep in the Canadian psyche. Trump has caused many people here to realize that our self-righteousness is at risk if we permit such a candidate to run, let alone win, here.

Consequently, the more moderate candidates in the ongoing Conservative leadership race are reaping windfalls from every mean-spirited or xenophobic thing that Trump does. After the shooting at a mosque in Quebec, Michael Chong (a front-runner in the leadership race) denounced demagogues like Trump and Leitch (she of "barbaric cultural practices" fame, also a leadership candidate)--and it was well-received by conservatives and liberals alike.

And, for additional context, the last time my hometown elected a non-conservative was 49 years ago, so if they're rejecting such leaders, I'm reasonably confident the broader country will, too.

Re: Silicon Valley is making plans to move foreign-born workers to Canada

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post #3

Wasn't the previous Canadian prime minister at least as xenophobic as Trump? (e.g., they revoked a bunch of dual citizens' Canadian citizenship) What will prevent Canadians from out-crazying the US in the next major election? (Honest question; Vancouver is a beautiful city, and presumably much less expensive than SF.)

WRT citizenship, if I googled it correctly, C-24 requires a terrorism-related conviction, or having obtained the citizenship by misrepresentation or fraud, in order to strip a dual citizen of their Canadian passport. It doesn't seem to be in the same category of things as the sorts of things Trump's doing. I'd say compared with Tories, the Republicans really are in a class of their own.

Hmm. I know Canadians that have dual US and Canadian citizenship, and they had to jump through all sorts of hoops ~ 6 years ago. They live in the US. Not sure about the details.
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