NHTSA’s full investigation into Tesla’s Autopilot shows 40% crash rate reduction
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Re: NHTSA’s full investigation into Tesla’s Autopilot shows 40% crash rate reduction
#2Tesla comes off extremely well in this report. For one thing, the 40% statistic cited in the headline appears to be well supported by the NHTSA report (section 5.4) and actually manages to frame the incident in a very positive light:
ODI analyzed mileage and airbag deployment data supplied by Tesla for all MY 2014 through 2016 Model S and 2016 Model X vehicles equipped with the Autopilot Technology Package, either installed in the vehicle when sold or through an OTA update, to calculate crash rates by miles travelled prior to and after Autopilot installation. Figure 11 shows the rates calculated by ODI for airbag deployment crashes in the subject Tesla vehicles before and after Autosteer installation. The data show that the Tesla vehicles crash rate dropped by almost 40 percent after Autosteer installation.
I had hoped to see more information about this specific incident. For instance, any data on whether the driver had his hands on the wheel, what steps the car had taken to prompt his attention, etc. But that doesn't seem to be included.
Re: NHTSA’s full investigation into Tesla’s Autopilot shows 40% crash rate reduction
#3For those who don't want to signup to Scribd just to download a publicly available PDF: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/2016/INCLA-PE16007-7876.PDF
Re: NHTSA’s full investigation into Tesla’s Autopilot shows 40% crash rate reduction
#4Tesla comes off extremely well in this report. For one thing, the 40% statistic cited in the headline appears to be well supported by the NHTSA report (section 5.4) and actually manages to frame the incident in a very positive light: ODI analyzed mileage and airbag deployment data supplied by Tesla for all MY 2014 through 2016 Model S and 2016 Model X vehicles equipped with the Autopilot Technology Package, either in…
I really would like to know the absolute numbers for this reduction. It's really questionable if this would hold up with millions of Teslas on the road in the hands of less wealthy(probably better educated) drivers.
Re: NHTSA’s full investigation into Tesla’s Autopilot shows 40% crash rate reduction
#5Great. There is no doubt that driver assists cut down on crashes. But what tesla has on the road is far from a total eyes-closed autopilot. That is an inflection point with this tech that nobody has dared to test on the public road. I remain unconvinced pending those trials.
Also, still havent seen any autodrive handle off-road driving such as boarding a carferry or navigate a construction zone manned by an inattentive flag person.
Re: NHTSA’s full investigation into Tesla’s Autopilot shows 40% crash rate reduction
#6Oh, hey, will you look at that.
The imperfect, incomplete, beta, level 2 self driving cars that were supposed to be the "dangerous" area of self driving are ALREADY better than human drivers.
Can we stop the politics and deploy all the real self driving cars to the road immediately, since the government has proven that even the shitty variety is safer than humans?
Re: NHTSA’s full investigation into Tesla’s Autopilot shows 40% crash rate reduction
#7Tesla comes off extremely well in this report. For one thing, the 40% statistic cited in the headline appears to be well supported by the NHTSA report (section 5.4) and actually manages to frame the incident in a very positive light: ODI analyzed mileage and airbag deployment data supplied by Tesla for all MY 2014 through 2016 Model S and 2016 Model X vehicles equipped with the Autopilot Technology Package, either in…
I really would like to know the absolute numbers for this reduction. It's really questionable if this would hold up with millions of Teslas on the road in the hands of less wealthy(probably better educated) drivers.
Wait... are you saying that people that are less wealthy are better educated? If so, I need to see some sources. That sounds preposterous.
Re: NHTSA’s full investigation into Tesla’s Autopilot shows 40% crash rate reduction
#8I don't really know why this is surprising. Computers are already better than humans at most tasks that involve a limited set of behaviors and they have infinitely better response time than humans (and continue to get better). How could anyone think that a report like this was going to end up any differently?
Re: NHTSA’s full investigation into Tesla’s Autopilot shows 40% crash rate reduction
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
I really would like to know the absolute numbers for this reduction. It's really questionable if this would hold up with millions of Teslas on the road in the hands of less wealthy(probably better educated) drivers.
Wait... are you saying that people that are less wealthy are better educated? If so, I need to see some sources. That sounds preposterous.
no. he needs more parens to make the order of operations clear. also, love the standard internet response to data. "the data in not perfect, or is incomplete, thus I will hold steadfast to my intuition"
love you, internet.
Re: NHTSA’s full investigation into Tesla’s Autopilot shows 40% crash rate reduction
#10Tesla comes off extremely well in this report. For one thing, the 40% statistic cited in the headline appears to be well supported by the NHTSA report (section 5.4) and actually manages to frame the incident in a very positive light: ODI analyzed mileage and airbag deployment data supplied by Tesla for all MY 2014 through 2016 Model S and 2016 Model X vehicles equipped with the Autopilot Technology Package, either in…
I really would like to know the absolute numbers for this reduction. It's really questionable if this would hold up with millions of Teslas on the road in the hands of less wealthy(probably better educated) drivers.
Probably as the technology scales up to millions of people using it, the numbers will actually be even better for safety. There is a network effect that compounds the safety factor - as more self-driving cars are on the road, there are fewer rogue human drivers. So with millions of Teslas driving around there will be that many fewer people causing accidents by human error.