Dear Obama, from Infosec
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Re: Dear Obama, from Infosec
#2Before the GRIZZLY STEPPE report I found myself asking where the proof for the insinuations of a Russian hack to influence the US elections was. I still ask that question after the report was released. I find it completely plausible. However, given the turbulence and hyper-partisanship of this election cycle, I need a bit more than 'It was the Russians because we say so'.
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#3> Russia's involvement is a huge issue
Not really. China's been doing much more overt theft and hacking for years. If you think this is huge issue, you aren't paying attention. Russia got information and then released it to the US public (which nobody wants to authenticate or disavow). I consider this more of a good than a harm.
Re: Dear Obama, from Infosec
#4Before the GRIZZLY STEPPE report I found myself asking where the proof for the insinuations of a Russian hack to influence the US elections was. I still ask that question after the report was released. I find it completely plausible. However, given the turbulence and hyper-partisanship of this election cycle, I need a bit more than 'It was the Russians because we say so'.
Exactly. Democrats lost everything in this elections, they could just blame Russia, why not? But then what does it say about USA democracy if couple of hackers can change who will be the next POTUS ? This is double edged sword.
Until I see evidence of Russia involvement I don't want to make any judgments. I am just tired of constant narration "you know it was Russia, you don't need proofs". It would be great to see some real proofs this time.
Re: Dear Obama, from Infosec
#5Before the GRIZZLY STEPPE report I found myself asking where the proof for the insinuations of a Russian hack to influence the US elections was. I still ask that question after the report was released. I find it completely plausible. However, given the turbulence and hyper-partisanship of this election cycle, I need a bit more than 'It was the Russians because we say so'.
It was first attributed to the Russians by CrowdStrike. I have yet to see any even remote indication of partisanship, especially pro-Democratic partisanship by CrowdStrike or its ownership.
Re: Dear Obama, from Infosec
#6Before the GRIZZLY STEPPE report I found myself asking where the proof for the insinuations of a Russian hack to influence the US elections was. I still ask that question after the report was released. I find it completely plausible. However, given the turbulence and hyper-partisanship of this election cycle, I need a bit more than 'It was the Russians because we say so'.
Another big reason it is plausible, and specifically plausible that it's the Russians, is that you can find the full range of cyberwarfare deployed against US allies, for the purpose of weakening transatlantic and european unity. From accusations by GCHQ of hacking to support a yes vote on brexit, to takedowns of infrastructure in Ukraine.
Re: Dear Obama, from Infosec
#7Before the GRIZZLY STEPPE report I found myself asking where the proof for the insinuations of a Russian hack to influence the US elections was. I still ask that question after the report was released. I find it completely plausible. However, given the turbulence and hyper-partisanship of this election cycle, I need a bit more than 'It was the Russians because we say so'.
Exactly. Democrats lost everything in this elections, they could just blame Russia, why not? But then what does it say about USA democracy if couple of hackers can change who will be the next POTUS ? This is double edged sword. Until I see evidence of Russia involvement I don't want to make any judgments. I am just tired of constant narration "you know it was Russia, you don't need proofs". It would be great to see s…
> Democrats lost everything in this elections, they could just blame Russia, why not?
It was attributed to Russians first before the election, and by a private cybersecurity that has never, AFAIK -- even since the attribution -- been accused of Democratic partisanship. So the idea that the Russians are being blamed by the Democrats because the Democrats lost everything in the election, while a convenient political narrative for Republicans, isn't consistent with the facts.
Re: Dear Obama, from Infosec
#8> Russia's involvement is a huge issue Not really. China's been doing much more overt theft and hacking for years. If you think this is huge issue, you aren't paying attention. Russia got information and then released it to the US public (which nobody wants to authenticate or disavow). I consider this more of a good than a harm.
Having any entity reveal corruption of US government officials is the least of our worries when it comes to the needs of the people, none of the media conglomerates cared when it was bush era leaks. The big issues with cybersecurity lie elsewhere.
Re: Dear Obama, from Infosec
#9> Russia's involvement is a huge issue Not really. China's been doing much more overt theft and hacking for years. If you think this is huge issue, you aren't paying attention. Russia got information and then released it to the US public (which nobody wants to authenticate or disavow). I consider this more of a good than a harm.
I find this whole thing kind of baffling...
We (UK+US) have been doing this shit for years and much, much more obviously..
It's clearly an outrage though. Influencing the outcome of another countries election is america's job! How dare those pesky russians have an interest in getting a pro-ru govt installed in the US....
I mean, it's totally different to what we've been doing for decades elsewhere... Right...
Re: Dear Obama, from Infosec
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly. Democrats lost everything in this elections, they could just blame Russia, why not? But then what does it say about USA democracy if couple of hackers can change who will be the next POTUS ? This is double edged sword. Until I see evidence of Russia involvement I don't want to make any judgments. I am just tired of constant narration "you know it was Russia, you don't need proofs". It would be great to see s…
> Democrats lost everything in this elections, they could just blame Russia, why not? It was attributed to Russians first before the election, and by a private cybersecurity that has never, AFAIK -- even since the attribution -- been accused of Democratic partisanship. So the idea that the Russians are being blamed by the Democrats because the Democrats lost everything in the election, while a convenient political na…
> So the idea that the Russians are being blamed by the Democrats because the Democrats lost everything in the election, while a convenient political narrative for Republicans, isn't consistent with the facts.
Sure, this can be one side of the coin but attributing something to someone without proofs will not make it a fact, doesn't it? I don't recall seeing any proofs. Maybe it was just convenient to democrats to just flow with that tide, they benefit from that for sure in current situation. But then there is second side of the coin, that Russia indeed was behind that hack and then what you wrote would be true. That's why I am not making any judgments.