Amazon refuses to let police access US murder suspect’s Echo recordings
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Re: Amazon refuses to let police access US murder suspect’s Echo recordings
#2Am I right in thinking that this means that all comms between the Echo device and AWS are end-to-end encrypted? Big plus for the devices, if so.
Re: Amazon refuses to let police access US murder suspect’s Echo recordings
#3Am I right in thinking that this means that all comms between the Echo device and AWS are end-to-end encrypted? Big plus for the devices, if so.
While I've got no doubt that they are end-to-end encrypted, this certainly doesn't even suggest that.
Re: Amazon refuses to let police access US murder suspect’s Echo recordings
#4First thought that comes to mind is: If Amazon lets the police access the Echo it would prove they're constantly listening, even if the device is in "Mute" mode
Which is really the main reason why I have avoided these smart speakers. Encrypt them all you want. Send a NSL and all the sudden you've made wiretapping that easier. And that would be very bad for business.
Re: Amazon refuses to let police access US murder suspect’s Echo recordings
#5First thought that comes to mind is: If Amazon lets the police access the Echo it would prove they're constantly listening, even if the device is in "Mute" mode Which is really the main reason why I have avoided these smart speakers. Encrypt them all you want. Send a NSL and all the sudden you've made wiretapping that easier. And that would be very bad for business.
>First thought that comes to mind is: If Amazon lets the police access the Echo it would prove they're constantly listening, even if the device is in "Mute" mode
Yeah, but this is entirely ridiculous. It's trivial for anyone with access to the device to verify that it most likely doesn't do that.
Re: Amazon refuses to let police access US murder suspect’s Echo recordings
#6Am I right in thinking that this means that all comms between the Echo device and AWS are end-to-end encrypted? Big plus for the devices, if so.
While I've got no doubt that they are end-to-end encrypted, this certainly doesn't even suggest that.
If they weren't encrypted, could they not just get the data via 'other channels' anyway?
Re: Amazon refuses to let police access US murder suspect’s Echo recordings
#7First thought that comes to mind is: If Amazon lets the police access the Echo it would prove they're constantly listening, even if the device is in "Mute" mode Which is really the main reason why I have avoided these smart speakers. Encrypt them all you want. Send a NSL and all the sudden you've made wiretapping that easier. And that would be very bad for business.
nevermind your smartphone
Re: Amazon refuses to let police access US murder suspect’s Echo recordings
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I've got no doubt that they are end-to-end encrypted, this certainly doesn't even suggest that.
If they weren't encrypted, could they not just get the data via 'other channels' anyway?
Some arkansas cops investigating run-of-the-mill violent crime aren't going to be able to get access to retroactive packet captures of this guys connection.
Even the NSA probably couldn't get such packet captures, but they'd be able to get the data from Amazons end.
Re: Amazon refuses to let police access US murder suspect’s Echo recordings
#9First thought that comes to mind is: If Amazon lets the police access the Echo it would prove they're constantly listening, even if the device is in "Mute" mode Which is really the main reason why I have avoided these smart speakers. Encrypt them all you want. Send a NSL and all the sudden you've made wiretapping that easier. And that would be very bad for business.
>First thought that comes to mind is: If Amazon lets the police access the Echo it would prove they're constantly listening, even if the device is in "Mute" mode Yeah, but this is entirely ridiculous. It's trivial for anyone with access to the device to verify that it most likely doesn't do that.
Not if you're a conspiracy theorist and don't trust anybody -- then everybody always has a reason to listen in on your mundane conversations!
Re: Amazon refuses to let police access US murder suspect’s Echo recordings
#10More importantly, the headline should read: "Police use high time resolution data from modern water meter against man charged with murder."
Basically this Abstruse Goose comic, http://abstrusegoose.com/553 , about the dangers of utility data logging have come true. The greater the time resolution of such things the more can be inferred. Such high resolution is completely uneeded and complex in order to just charge for usage. The new wireless meters could simply send daily lump sums and still be wireless and easy. But instead they abuse the functionality in order to intrude on the lives of everyone.