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Re: Dear JavaScript

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You get paid extraorbitant sums of money to sit in a chair and think about imaginary problems. You don't stand and work all day. You don't change the world in any way. You sit at a computer and punch keys all day, and you have the audacity to bitch and moan about your precious feelings when you havent worked a hard days work in your entire life.

You're literally an adult crybaby.

Re: Dear JavaScript

#3
I think there is a lot of truth here. I can't help but feel that you just diagnosed a great deal of the internet, far beyond javascript or dev. We need better communities and better communication. I wish I knew how to make that actionable.

Re: Dear JavaScript

#5
I’ve always been advised to avoid these “sub-communities” like /r/javascript and Hacker News. Maintainers say they are filled with assholes who don’t know what they are talking about, angry idiots shouting at everything and everyone, cesspools, giant piles of trash burning in the wind.

Is HN really that bad? I mean, it must be, if people maintaining popular open source projects think so... But why does it feel much more useful to me than a "pile of trash burning in the wind"?

I guess my experience as a commenter is so different because I've learned to tune out the negative stuff and it's not aimed at me.

Re: Dear JavaScript

#6
I remember reading that Angular 2 thread and walking away disappointed with the baby-like, nonconstructive screaming. (disclaimer: I'm using NG2 and enjoy it).

This article has reminded me that there are people behind these projects, even the ones I don't like.

Re: Dear JavaScript

#7
I strongly suspect that the competitive environment in Javascript frameworks and :s/tool/fool/ing is the main source of the negativity: Trolls have the explicit agenda to demolish/demotivate what they're trolling in order to push their own project/framework.

Re: Dear JavaScript

#8
As with seemingly ever problem over this last few years, this just comes back to the same basic problem. Entitlement.

People feel entitled that your library works the way THEY want it to work. They are entitled to feeling that changes you make should agree with THEIR project workflow. They feel entitled to complain when its not exactly what they want.

Entitlement is going to be this period in time's label...

Re: Dear JavaScript

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post #5

I’ve always been advised to avoid these “sub-communities” like /r/javascript and Hacker News. Maintainers say they are filled with assholes who don’t know what they are talking about, angry idiots shouting at everything and everyone, cesspools, giant piles of trash burning in the wind. Is HN really that bad? I mean, it must be, if people maintaining popular open source projects think so... But why does it feel much m…

Many HN posts about JS devolve into a "I don't like Javascript because I'm a real programmer, not a frontend" slugfest.

As someone who is invested in the long-term success of the JS ecosystem, it becomes a lot easier just to remove yourself from the discussion because a lot of the community is so negative about the (older versions) of the language and ecosystem, purely on ideology.

Re: Dear JavaScript

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post #5

I’ve always been advised to avoid these “sub-communities” like /r/javascript and Hacker News. Maintainers say they are filled with assholes who don’t know what they are talking about, angry idiots shouting at everything and everyone, cesspools, giant piles of trash burning in the wind. Is HN really that bad? I mean, it must be, if people maintaining popular open source projects think so... But why does it feel much m…

Check out this comment from one of the devs behind Homebrew from HN 10 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13035438 (this was in response that he might be a good target to sue over putting Google Analytics in Homebrew).

Yes, we need to treat our open source devs better. HN is not innocent.

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