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Trump Picks Staunch Opponents of Net Neutrality to Oversee FCC

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I'm thinking of the day that I create a video to demonstrate the effects of this (eg. only getting faster access to YouTube because I paid some special fee to my ISP). Thanks Trump!!! I recall seeing some doomsday video about this. Will have to compare that to what transpires.

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I'm not very sympathetic to some who are hyperventilating over this.

Yes, Net Neutrality is important.

But if you're on Team Pepsi, you shouldn't be very happy when your captain makes things happen due to technicalities and the ability to skirt Congress; Team Coke is going to be in charge at some point and all of these easily-implemented changes are so easily undone.

So now Team Coke is going to be running things, and the very means by which Team Pepsi got what they wanted will quite possibly be the same means by which they are removed.

The hand-wringing is over the wrong thing, and years too late. The focus should have been in placing proper legislative protections in place when the political environment was favorable.

This possibility was predictable and, given enough time, inevitable.

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I'm not very sympathetic to some who are hyperventilating over this. Yes, Net Neutrality is important. But if you're on Team Pepsi, you shouldn't be very happy when your captain makes things happen due to technicalities and the ability to skirt Congress; Team Coke is going to be in charge at some point and all of these easily-implemented changes are so easily undone. So now Team Coke is going to be running things, an…

> But if you're on Team Pepsi, you shouldn't be very happy when your captain makes things happen due to technicalities and the ability to skirt Congress; Team Coke is going to be in charge at some point and all of these easily-implemented changes are so easily undone.

I understand the point that people shouldn't feel complacent, but what else is Team Pepsi supposed to do if they don't get support from congress?

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post #4

I'm not very sympathetic to some who are hyperventilating over this. Yes, Net Neutrality is important. But if you're on Team Pepsi, you shouldn't be very happy when your captain makes things happen due to technicalities and the ability to skirt Congress; Team Coke is going to be in charge at some point and all of these easily-implemented changes are so easily undone. So now Team Coke is going to be running things, an…

> But if you're on Team Pepsi, you shouldn't be very happy when your captain makes things happen due to technicalities and the ability to skirt Congress; Team Coke is going to be in charge at some point and all of these easily-implemented changes are so easily undone. I understand the point that people shouldn't feel complacent, but what else is Team Pepsi supposed to do if they don't get support from congress?

Campaign to get obstructionist members of Congress replaced. That's a pretty unsatisfying answer, but that's the only legal means to do it right.

IMO the Executive Order/fiat by committee approach is detrimental in the long run. Sure, stuff gets done...but once the goal has been reached everybody moves on without much thought about the long-term.

It's like those home renovation shows where they have a pizza budget but champagne tastes, and the designer/builder figures out a clever way to get a particular look for cheap. The unveil the house, the owners are thrilled about how it looks, and the show ends on a happy note. They never go back 6-12 months later, and talk about how the cheap facade peeled away or the sharp edges on the hastily-built cabinetry, etc etc.

Re: Trump Picks Staunch Opponents of Net Neutrality to Oversee FCC

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I'm not very sympathetic to some who are hyperventilating over this. Yes, Net Neutrality is important. But if you're on Team Pepsi, you shouldn't be very happy when your captain makes things happen due to technicalities and the ability to skirt Congress; Team Coke is going to be in charge at some point and all of these easily-implemented changes are so easily undone. So now Team Coke is going to be running things, an…

>But if you're on Team Pepsi, you shouldn't be very happy when your captain makes things happen due to technicalities and the ability to skirt Congress; Team Coke is going to be in charge at some point and all of these easily-implemented changes are so easily undone.

You've got a very valid point, and one we should extend. Part of the very point of democracy is to cultivate a loyal opposition whose rule you can live with, even if it displeases you sometimes.

On that score, the American party system is, unfortunately, a massive failure. The Republicans are dangerously close to using districting and electoral quirks (and even, after 2018, potentially amending the Constitution) to exterminate the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party have been trying for more than a decade to put together a demographic coalition that could keep the Republicans from winning anything ever again -- except for how miserable a failure that project has been.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But if you're on Team Pepsi, you shouldn't be very happy when your captain makes things happen due to technicalities and the ability to skirt Congress; Team Coke is going to be in charge at some point and all of these easily-implemented changes are so easily undone. I understand the point that people shouldn't feel complacent, but what else is Team Pepsi supposed to do if they don't get support from congress?

Campaign to get obstructionist members of Congress replaced. That's a pretty unsatisfying answer, but that's the only legal means to do it right . IMO the Executive Order/fiat by committee approach is detrimental in the long run. Sure, stuff gets done...but once the goal has been reached everybody moves on without much thought about the long-term. It's like those home renovation shows where they have a pizza budget b…

>Campaign to get obstructionist members of Congress replaced. That's a pretty unsatisfying answer, but that's the only legal means to do it right.

The problem is that Congressional districts are gerrymandered as fuck, making it quite often impossible to have a genuine two-party contest within electoral politics. I mean, are you suggesting Team Pepsi run in Team Coke's Congressional primaries as moderates rather than contesting a general election they basically can't win?

A system in which Congresspeople get to pick their favorite voters isn't democratic.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Campaign to get obstructionist members of Congress replaced. That's a pretty unsatisfying answer, but that's the only legal means to do it right . IMO the Executive Order/fiat by committee approach is detrimental in the long run. Sure, stuff gets done...but once the goal has been reached everybody moves on without much thought about the long-term. It's like those home renovation shows where they have a pizza budget b…

>Campaign to get obstructionist members of Congress replaced. That's a pretty unsatisfying answer, but that's the only legal means to do it right. The problem is that Congressional districts are gerrymandered as fuck , making it quite often impossible to have a genuine two-party contest within electoral politics. I mean, are you suggesting Team Pepsi run in Team Coke's Congressional primaries as moderates rather than…

"The problem is that Congressional districts are gerrymandered as fuck, making it quite often impossible to have a genuine two-party contest within electoral politics. I mean, are you suggesting Team Pepsi run in Team Coke's Congressional primaries as moderates rather than contesting a general election they basically can't win?"

Congressional districts are ultimately decided by the individual states, (theoretically) based upon Census data as I understand it. (A correction is welcome if I've misunderstood)

Given that, it seems like if you want to fix the US Congress, work must begin at the individual state level to ensure gerrymandering is eliminated. This would likely involve not only pushing for state representatives to support this but electing governors (in cases where the governor has a say in districting issues).

At first this seems like a "it's turtles all the way down" kind of problem but I think voter education campaigns (as opposed to the voter-insulting or voter-shaming that seems to be standard for the national level these days) would probably be the most effective way to address it. Regardless of party, I think most Americans are in favor of fairness and equality.

Trouble is, when a party wins (and thus is in the best position to fix the issue), this isn't seen as a problem worth addressing. That change, too, needs to come from within.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Campaign to get obstructionist members of Congress replaced. That's a pretty unsatisfying answer, but that's the only legal means to do it right. The problem is that Congressional districts are gerrymandered as fuck , making it quite often impossible to have a genuine two-party contest within electoral politics. I mean, are you suggesting Team Pepsi run in Team Coke's Congressional primaries as moderates rather than…

"The problem is that Congressional districts are gerrymandered as fuck, making it quite often impossible to have a genuine two-party contest within electoral politics. I mean, are you suggesting Team Pepsi run in Team Coke's Congressional primaries as moderates rather than contesting a general election they basically can't win?" Congressional districts are ultimately decided by the individual states, (theoretically)…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering

Again here just sticking to a popular vote would help on the state-level.

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