Elm – “Designing to infantilize a target audience is how we got Java”
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Re: Elm – “Designing to infantilize a target audience is how we got Java”
#2Whereas taking something old but reliable and throwing whiz-bang new footguns at it is how we got C++. Don't get me wrong, it's still one of my favourite languages, but damn if sometimes it isn't like an alligator with a bunch of broken glass glued to it.
Re: Elm – “Designing to infantilize a target audience is how we got Java”
#3Good for him. Let's compare the 2 languages in 20 years, and see how the language for the infantilized target audience is doing. I'm fairly certain Elm won't even be a footnote in history.
Re: Elm – “Designing to infantilize a target audience is how we got Java”
#4Good for him. Let's compare the 2 languages in 20 years, and see how the language for the infantilized target audience is doing. I'm fairly certain Elm won't even be a footnote in history.
To be fair, many items in history got popular being ... err, for the infantile; some primarily because of it. But I don't think popularity is one of Elm's goals.
I use what I use because it works for me, and not because it's the fashionable trend; similarly, I think while Java has its place, I'll use Elm when it works for me. And not being dumbed down certainly serves some functions.
Re: Elm – “Designing to infantilize a target audience is how we got Java”
#5...and then in the very next breath:
JavaScript dev's who are
interested in Elm, are the
cream of the crop imho and
good engineers will step
upto the plate when
challenged.
(cringe)
Re: Elm – “Designing to infantilize a target audience is how we got Java”
#6Whereas taking something old but reliable and throwing whiz-bang new footguns at it is how we got C++. Don't get me wrong, it's still one of my favourite languages, but damn if sometimes it isn't like an alligator with a bunch of broken glass glued to it.
To be fair to the context here, neither is:
1. JavaScript reliable like C, nor
2. Elm an addition of "whiz-bang new footguns" to JavaScript.
Re: Elm – “Designing to infantilize a target audience is how we got Java”
#7...and then in the very next breath: JavaScript dev's who are interested in Elm, are the cream of the crop imho and good engineers will step upto the plate when challenged. Ha ha! Okay, buddy! So long, and thanks for all the fish! (cringe)
Yes, that's an incredibly bold statement. Javascript today is probably the most popular language in the world (according to Github; other indices tell a different story), and that gives it the very same role that at once was fulfilled by Java or even PHP: it's probably the first language a newcomer will learn programming with, hence you'll find a lot of unskilled engineers as well as some experts.
So, saying that Javascript devs, just because they're interested in Elm, are "the cream of the crop"... sounds ludicrous.
Re: Elm – “Designing to infantilize a target audience is how we got Java”
#8Good for him. Let's compare the 2 languages in 20 years, and see how the language for the infantilized target audience is doing. I'm fairly certain Elm won't even be a footnote in history.
Hitler is certainly not only a footnote.