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What Pro Computing Could Be

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Re: What Pro Computing Could Be

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"In conversation over two years ago, we converged on an assumption: Apple and Microsoft will taper off their investments in pro hardware and software"

If it took you two years to get that far, you may want to find some less stressful topics to ponder. Also, please enlighten me: what exactly is Microsoft's previous investment in "pro hardware"? And what "pro software" has Microsoft been investing in in the past that targets "video editors, 3D modelers, audio engineers, data scientists"?

WTF? This article is almost literally "The MacBook sucks, my friend agrees and we've been throwing around buzzwords and then we stopped"

Seriously: there's no coherent thought in this "article". I don't even know what these so-called "professionals" are missing in the author's view.

" fast machines with plenty of memory and myriad ways of moving data in, out, and around them." – Well, yeah, fast is great. But it's not Apple's fault that CPU speeds are stagnating. It's simply approaching physical limits, as well as CPUs having reached a level of performance where people prefer to invest resources into power efficiency.

AS one of those so-called "data scientists" I'll also let you in on a trade secret: the stuff I do on a notebook could comfortably run on a phone. It's a text editor, a browser, and ssh. That's because we don't do number crunching on a notebook. It's a cluster, or sometimes a workstation with a couple of GPUs.

Everybody also seems to miss that we've seen an actual leap in notebook performance: SSDs had a huge impact because HDDs were (by far) the limiting factor for almost all workloads.

Regarding the "myriad ways to move data around" – no thanks. Now I'd consider it quite failure to ever have actual data on a notebook. But I'd guess even if you're working on local data, USB 3.1 and thunderbolt are probably what you'd want to use?

"Pros don’t quit because their tools are suboptimal."

Yeah, they do. Give someone a shovel and ask them to dig a tunnel.

"That’s practically the definition of “professional” – a pro gets the damn thing done."

No, the definition of a professional is "getting paid", which, by the way, separates them from your little thought experiment. Alternatively, "professional" is slang for a prostitute, which actually does fit your definition of "getting the damn thing done", so maybe I've been reading this wrong.

"That cycle of dependence, along with the need for stability and predictability in one’s tools, makes product incrementalism the norm in pro computing."

I still don't know what "pro computing" is, but surely "pros" are today using the same operating systems as "non-pro" are? So the non-professional computing is also moving incrementally, right? Then I don't get why you're trying to derive some sort of causality ("need for stability...") that's specific for one of the two segments when they move in parallel.

"It should be no surprise as to why nobody has attempted the sort of ground-up overhauling of pro computing that we mapped out: it’s expensive, slow, and risky to do something big, new, and different."

Or maybe it's just stupid. Because our tools are pretty good (being the product of actual professionals "getting the job done") and there's no reason to throw them out for unnamed pie-in-the-sky fantasies.

Re: What Pro Computing Could Be

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I feel this and believe it to be spot on. Looking to be an early defector, a thorough survey of the hardware landscape has left me in awe of the amazing hardware companies are willing to cram into such a cut-rate shit of a package. On the software front, macOS is such a 'get shit done' OS, but I believe that may be solely due to the having the lions share of the development community's mind-share. It is for that reason I've decided to fund a multitude of 'hopefuls' and fully immerse myself into a foreign OS platform. If it's going to get better we must all embrace the suck as it is today and begin to develop the future.

Re: What Pro Computing Could Be

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> Pros don’t quit because their tools are suboptimal. That’s practically the definition of “professional” – a pro gets the damn thing done. A pro user might gripe about the new MacBook Pro, but the next time she needs a new machine, she’s going to buy one anyway because that’s the path of least resistance and she needs to get back to work.

This sums up perfectly my thoughts about Apple hardware right now. I am annoyed by the fact that I won't be able to connect any of my devices to the new MacBook Pro, but I'll buy one anyway, because I need to get things done to earn money.

I also agree that the pro market is ripe for disruption (again). Interestingly enough, Apple began its rise to stardom from the pro segment, which it is now abandoning. Foolishly, I think, because it's a relatively easy disruption path for the next company.

Re: What Pro Computing Could Be

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post #2

"In conversation over two years ago, we converged on an assumption: Apple and Microsoft will taper off their investments in pro hardware and software" If it took you two years to get that far, you may want to find some less stressful topics to ponder. Also, please enlighten me: what exactly is Microsoft's previous investment in "pro hardware"? And what "pro software" has Microsoft been investing in in the past that t…

There was once a time where you had a workstation running a professional OS you could trust not to mess with your data and privacy. I think we lost something there.

Re: What Pro Computing Could Be

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The "pros" aren't simply pissed off at the latest MBP. We're pissed off at the continuing trend over the last 5 years of Apple products becoming more difficult or nearly impossible to disassemble, upgrade and repair. We're tired of form over function. Sales targets over user experience.

Re: What Pro Computing Could Be

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The "pros" aren't simply pissed off at the latest MBP. We're pissed off at the continuing trend over the last 5 years of Apple products becoming more difficult or nearly impossible to disassemble, upgrade and repair. We're tired of form over function. Sales targets over user experience.

if form over function was an issue to you to begin with then you wouldn't have bought apple in the first place.

Re: What Pro Computing Could Be

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post #2

"In conversation over two years ago, we converged on an assumption: Apple and Microsoft will taper off their investments in pro hardware and software" If it took you two years to get that far, you may want to find some less stressful topics to ponder. Also, please enlighten me: what exactly is Microsoft's previous investment in "pro hardware"? And what "pro software" has Microsoft been investing in in the past that t…

Although I find your post a bit too harsh here and there, I generally agree.

"Getting the job done" is the pretty important aspect for me here. And the reason why I've (again) bought a new MacBook. I am a freelance software developer. I can use all the tools I need on a Mac and they work fine. I generally don't care about hardware or software failures - maybe I was lucky, but my previous Macs never disappointed me in the last years. I don't have to spend time configuring drivers or fighting updates.

Another aspect is the look and feel of a Mac. When I am onsite at clients, giving presentations or acquiring jobs, it makes a huge difference if I have a Mac or Dell/HP/Lenovo/whatever notebook standing on the table. People, especially managers, mostly value appearance more than competence - sad but true.

Re: What Pro Computing Could Be

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The "pros" aren't simply pissed off at the latest MBP. We're pissed off at the continuing trend over the last 5 years of Apple products becoming more difficult or nearly impossible to disassemble, upgrade and repair. We're tired of form over function. Sales targets over user experience.

I haven't had a need to open a computer in like 16 years. Well that's not entirely true. I one time upgraded the HDD on my old MacBook Pro maybe 6 years ago.

There just isn't a need to do this stuff anymore. Even making your own computer anymore in expensive, confusing, and generally not fun anymore.

Re: What Pro Computing Could Be

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Here is an easy alternative to a MacBook Pro (easy for a professional anyway): Buy a standard Laptop with matte display. Install Arch Linux (learn one thing or another on the way). Use Gnome 3 (maybe install some software from Pantheon as well, like the file manager pantheon-files). Get work done.
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