Open Salaries: Outcomes

#1

Post by fridek » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 3:17 PM UTC

Open Salaries: Outcomes
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Re: Open Salaries: Outcomes

#2

Post by davidgrenier » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 3:46 PM UTC

I'd like to get push-back to the idea of everyone earning the same salary. Why wouldn't it work from some people who seem to have some experience like you have?

Re: Open Salaries: Outcomes

#3

Post by coldcode » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 3:52 PM UTC

This might work for a company of 25, but what a disaster it would be for a company of 100,000+

Re: Open Salaries: Outcomes

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Post by gizmo » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 3:56 PM UTC

coldcode wrote: post #3

This might work for a company of 25, but what a disaster it would be for a company of 100,000+

And yet small companies often try to adopt "best practices" from megacorps 1000 times their size! One of the huge advantages of working in a small companies is that you can do all these things that don't scale.

Re: Open Salaries: Outcomes

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Post by drinchev » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 4:02 PM UTC

coldcode wrote: post #3

This might work for a company of 25, but what a disaster it would be for a company of 100,000+

Don't companies with that size have budget-salaries which are equal for all employees on the same rank / position / experience level?

I doubt that BMW has an engineer that earns more than his / her colleague at the same position.

Re: Open Salaries: Outcomes

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Post by herge » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 4:02 PM UTC

coldcode wrote: post #3

This might work for a company of 25, but what a disaster it would be for a company of 100,000+

Really? A lot of governments are one of the few employers with more than 100k+ employees, and have a lot of open salaries for civil servants.

Re: Open Salaries: Outcomes

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Post by maxxxxx » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 4:03 PM UTC

coldcode wrote: post #3

This might work for a company of 25, but what a disaster it would be for a company of 100,000+

Why would it be a disaster for a big company?

Re: Open Salaries: Outcomes

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Post by sdenton4 » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 4:03 PM UTC

coldcode wrote: post #3

This might work for a company of 25, but what a disaster it would be for a company of 100,000+

Why? Certainly one would expect the form of the discussions to be a bit different - eg, as part of a performance eval tool, instead of a company-wide discussion - but I don't see why it would be a disaster.

In fact, given the number of people who said this would be a disaster for a company of 25 people two years ago, there's an even greater onus to provide real reasons transparent salaries couldn't work at other companies.

Re: Open Salaries: Outcomes

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Post by sytse » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 4:05 PM UTC

After you define salary ranges for positions the only variables left are promotions and experience within the role. I don't think it makes sense to have people that are not working with a person decide that. I think the direct boss of the person should decide after getting input from others and subject to approval by the boss' boss.

Re: Open Salaries: Outcomes

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Post by scrapcode » Thu, Oct 27, 2016, 4:06 PM UTC

herge wrote: post #6

coldcode wrote: post #3

This might work for a company of 25, but what a disaster it would be for a company of 100,000+

Really? A lot of governments are one of the few employers with more than 100k+ employees, and have a lot of open salaries for civil servants.

True, but it seems like they have a system where everyone can share feedback on whether someone else gets a raise or not. That's certainly not the case in the US Govt.