Jakarta's Aeromovel – mass transit powered by pressurized air [video]
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#2> generated by electric blowers
Is the electricity generation clean? Unlikely in SEA.
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#3Saw the video was from 2007.. looked for an update. It was designed in the 1970s. This was the first system, and was installed in 1989. It's a 2mi loop. In 2013, they installed a 0.6mi line at a Brazilian airport.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_railway#Aeromovel
They're working on a new 3.75mi line in downtown Canoas BR. http://www.aeromovel.com.br/en/projeto/canoas/
In this 1993 article, they say this cost $9m US to construct (using local labor and materials) and $500k/yr to operate. http://articles.latimes.com/1993-01-17/business/fi-2255_1_tr...
That's a lot cheaper than light rail.. but it's hard to do a fair comparison, because of the labor difference and light rail projects (at least in the US) include stuff like tunnels, re-routing highways, etc.
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#4> generated by electric blowers Is the electricity generation clean? Unlikely in SEA.
Indonesia uses 95% fossil fuels: oil (46%), coal (31%), and gas (18%).
https://www.adb.org/sites/default/files/publication/178039/i...
I don't think they really cared about that though.. this was a pilot project
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#5Saw the video was from 2007.. looked for an update. It was designed in the 1970s. This was the first system, and was installed in 1989. It's a 2mi loop. In 2013, they installed a 0.6mi line at a Brazilian airport. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_railway#Aeromovel They're working on a new 3.75mi line in downtown Canoas BR. http://www.aeromovel.com.br/en/projeto/canoas/ In this 1993 article, they say this cos…
I'm curious as to when exactly that video was recorded. It must have been after 1989, but it looks like those 1970s era films we used to watch in elementary school. Which is kind of appropriate given the incredibly simple technology they're using.
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#6> generated by electric blowers Is the electricity generation clean? Unlikely in SEA.
> Is the electricity generation clean? Unlikely in SEA.
No doubt true, but possibly the wrong question to be asking. Is a coal fired plant outside of Jakarta going to produce less pollution than all those buses and cheap motorcyles generating their pollution right where all the people are?
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#7Saw the video was from 2007.. looked for an update. It was designed in the 1970s. This was the first system, and was installed in 1989. It's a 2mi loop. In 2013, they installed a 0.6mi line at a Brazilian airport. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_railway#Aeromovel They're working on a new 3.75mi line in downtown Canoas BR. http://www.aeromovel.com.br/en/projeto/canoas/ In this 1993 article, they say this cos…
I lived in Jakarta in 2010... there is no such system operating (and IMO there never will be - it is inferior to conventional electric light rail despite the claims to the contrary made in the video).
But there are a bunch of unused concrete pylons that look just like the ones in the video on certain roads. I was told that was for a light rail system that got cancelled due to rising cost issues. Not sure it was this though, a Japanese contractor that was shafted by the government was mentioned.
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#8I stumbled across the Aeromovel on Wikipedia ("Hyperloop" > "Atmospheric railway" to "Atmospheric railway - Aeromovel" [1]). I was looking for a diagram to explain exactly how it worked, but couldn't really find one. However this video actually does a really good job of explaining it, all the way down to the guy crawling around in the air duct.
The Aeromovel is about as low-tech as the Hyperloop is high tech. Of course it addresses a different part of the transit problem space, but it looks like it actually works, and it's easy to see why it's really cheap.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_railway#Aeromovel
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#9Saw the video was from 2007.. looked for an update. It was designed in the 1970s. This was the first system, and was installed in 1989. It's a 2mi loop. In 2013, they installed a 0.6mi line at a Brazilian airport. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_railway#Aeromovel They're working on a new 3.75mi line in downtown Canoas BR. http://www.aeromovel.com.br/en/projeto/canoas/ In this 1993 article, they say this cos…
I lived in Jakarta in 2010... there is no such system operating (and IMO there never will be - it is inferior to conventional electric light rail despite the claims to the contrary made in the video). But there are a bunch of unused concrete pylons that look just like the ones in the video on certain roads. I was told that was for a light rail system that got cancelled due to rising cost issues. Not sure it was this…
I've lived there 20% time since 2009 have never heard of this system. People said the same thing to me about those pylons. They've since launched a "busway" system and are currently building a proper light rail MRT system. It should theoretically begin operation of one of the lines next year. Lots of good work being done now.
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#10Does it still work? I don't thing so, so why it failed?