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The DEA is withdrawing a proposal to ban another plant citing public outcry

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Re: The DEA is withdrawing a proposal to ban another plant citing public outcry

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The DEA reversing course due to public outcry (and common sense)?! What alternate reality have we slipped into?!

Previously:

DEA will ban chemicals contained in kratom, a popular herbal supplement https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12410083

Call to Action to save Kratom plant from DEA's uninformed Schedule I decision https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12438605

Re: The DEA is withdrawing a proposal to ban another plant citing public outcry

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The DEA reversing course due to public outcry (and common sense)?! What alternate reality have we slipped into?! Previously: DEA will ban chemicals contained in kratom, a popular herbal supplement https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12410083 Call to Action to save Kratom plant from DEA's uninformed Schedule I decision https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12438605

It really isn't a course reversal, the people holding the purse strings seemed to have forced the DEA's hand into extending the period of public comment.

IIRC something similar happened with MDMA.

Hopefully folks like myself who have used Kratom to alleviate opiate withdrawal to great success will come forward and comment.

Anecdotally speaking, there are folks who have used kratom to ween themselves off of maintenance drugs like methadone and suboxone.

The withdrawals from long-acting maintenance opiates like these can last months making it nearly impossible to get off of them cold-turkey.

Switching to kratom, which has a shorter, more forgiving withdrawal, can be of great benefit to an addict looking to get off of these maintenance drugs.

For an addict, kratom stops withdrawals in their tracks. It doesn't get you high, and taking more to get high would be pointless.

To an opiate-naive individual kratom will at most give a mild buzz. It's not like taking heroin, hydrocodone, or even codeine. just a mild buzz.

Kratom is usually sold as a powdered leaf. You can't overdose on kratom, because if you take too much of the powdered leaf you just throw up, well before you're able to ingest a dangerous amount. It's very self-regulating in that way.

You can't smoke or snort the powdered leaf. It is usually swallowed as a powdered leaf with a thick juice or simply brewed into a tea.

Re: The DEA is withdrawing a proposal to ban another plant citing public outcry

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The DEA reversing course due to public outcry (and common sense)?! What alternate reality have we slipped into?! Previously: DEA will ban chemicals contained in kratom, a popular herbal supplement https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12410083 Call to Action to save Kratom plant from DEA's uninformed Schedule I decision https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12438605

It really isn't a course reversal, the people holding the purse strings seemed to have forced the DEA's hand into extending the period of public comment. IIRC something similar happened with MDMA. Hopefully folks like myself who have used Kratom to alleviate opiate withdrawal to great success will come forward and comment. Anecdotally speaking, there are folks who have used kratom to ween themselves off of maintenanc…

Do you hang out in irc often perchance?

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It really isn't a course reversal, the people holding the purse strings seemed to have forced the DEA's hand into extending the period of public comment. IIRC something similar happened with MDMA. Hopefully folks like myself who have used Kratom to alleviate opiate withdrawal to great success will come forward and comment. Anecdotally speaking, there are folks who have used kratom to ween themselves off of maintenanc…

Do you hang out in irc often perchance?

as a matter of fact I just got around to installing an IRC client for the first time in years.

sorry about the line breaks.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you hang out in irc often perchance?

as a matter of fact I just got around to installing an IRC client for the first time in years. sorry about the line breaks.

Ha, funny, different kratom shills I'm thinking of then(I say shill as a joke).

Hope you join us on free/quake/ef/rizon.

Cheers~

(I'll never forgive you about the line breaks)

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