Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue

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Post by SalahEddine » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 6:30 AM UTC

Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue
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Re: Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue

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Post by omarchowdhury » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 7:39 AM UTC

Posts this like are useless when the app and the ad placements in question are not known to us the readers, since then we can at least detect any real violations of Facebook Audience Network's policies.

Re: Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue

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Post by anondon » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 7:44 AM UTC

Can anyone backup those revenue numbers from past experience?

Curiously, the application name was not posted.

I don't want to call bullsh*t, but if the claims could be verified, the discussion can move on to how to actually deal with the situation.

I believe there are Facebook employees on HN, would it be possible to bring this matter to the attention of the concerned people, if the claims turn out to be valid?

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Post by willvarfar » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 7:56 AM UTC

Sad that the reddit advice is:

    [–]guitartrashmaster 45 points 4 hours ago 
    Dude post on hacker news trust me
    perma-linkembedsavereportgive goldreply

        [–]VikingIV -2 points 45 minutes ago 
        This.

Its the same with google; the only way for devs to get any kind of traction is by kicking up a fuss on HN. Its crazy that it has to be this way.

Re: Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 8:02 AM UTC

willvarfar wrote: post #4

Sad that the reddit advice is: [–]guitartrashmaster 45 points 4 hours ago Dude post on hacker news trust me perma-linkembedsavereportgive goldreply [–]VikingIV -2 points 45 minutes ago This. Its the same with google; the only way for devs to get any kind of traction is by kicking up a fuss on HN. Its crazy that it has to be this way.

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Re: Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue

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Post by jrockway » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 8:04 AM UTC

Sounds like a script that went awry, misclassifying the app? If so, I have a feeling that when some engineer at Facebook wakes up and sees this tomorrow, the problem will go away ;)

Re: Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue

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Post by vonklaus » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 8:05 AM UTC

This happened to someone using stripe; a similar case where the account was suspended and the user was upset about the inability to capture revenue.

I trust stripe a lot more than FB, that said, PC showed up in the thread as well as numerous suppory staff. The claim was similar, big money rev processing suspended but limited details. It turned out that the user was violating the terms and had been notified well in advance. The user stopped responding to other posters asking for details and it was immeadiately evident that it was a pretty shady & onesided story.

Now, FB is quite restrictive-- but until the user substantiates the nature of their application & facebook's violations & correspondence; I can't really cry foul.

The user said they didn't want to mention the app because it would be "promoting it". Idk, it does feel a bit off. Take Dash/kapeli, they blamed apple for kicking them out of the app store, and while they are well known, they stood behind their name and identity which is all the reputation one has on the internet.

So, i hope this is rectified but mire evidemce is surely needed

Re: Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue

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Post by rspeer » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 8:15 AM UTC

This title's grammar is mangled and confusing on HN. The $160000 was for the developer, not for anyone else. The "for those who use Facebook ads" was a separate clause saying who the post is for.

I know HN approves of original titles but also disapproves of sensationalism and exclamation points. I would suggest something like:

App developer says: "Facebook stole my $160000"

Re: Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue

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Post by ohashi » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 8:15 AM UTC

willvarfar wrote: post #4

Sad that the reddit advice is: [–]guitartrashmaster 45 points 4 hours ago Dude post on hacker news trust me perma-linkembedsavereportgive goldreply [–]VikingIV -2 points 45 minutes ago This. Its the same with google; the only way for devs to get any kind of traction is by kicking up a fuss on HN. Its crazy that it has to be this way.

A complete shame, but this isn't new. This is the digital equivalent of call your local paper and kick up a fuss.

Re: Facebook seems not to be paying app developer $160K in ad revenue

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Post by vonklaus » Wed, Oct 12, 2016, 8:22 AM UTC

jrockway wrote: post #6

Sounds like a script that went awry, misclassifying the app? If so, I have a feeling that when some engineer at Facebook wakes up and sees this tomorrow, the problem will go away ;)

Unless you work at FB or have other info, I would definitely doubt that. Assuming this claim is legit, FB has not done a lot to instill any degree of confidence(for me) that they are a user-centric organization willing to compromise & work with customers.

FB, much like apple, is a closed off "our way or the highway" type company. It is utterly massive which not only gives it huge power, but makes it difficult to even find a human to rectify an issue. So I hope you are correct...but i doubt it.