U.S. Accuses Tech Firm of Bias Against Asian Software Engineers
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U.S. Accuses Tech Firm of Bias Against Asian Software Engineers
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#2Not surprising. Rich white people want to stick together and give opportunities to other rich white people in their own circle. It's the same for Asian people in Silicon Valley as well--I don't think it's fair to single out one particular race for this type of behavior. Racism seems to be a human characteristic--whether it's in prison or tech firms, racism is pervasive. It would be more interesting and very much more innovative if SV where a true meritocracy.
Re: U.S. Accuses Tech Firm of Bias Against Asian Software Engineers
#3Not surprising. Rich white people want to stick together and give opportunities to other rich white people in their own circle. It's the same for Asian people in Silicon Valley as well--I don't think it's fair to single out one particular race for this type of behavior. Racism seems to be a human characteristic--whether it's in prison or tech firms, racism is pervasive. It would be more interesting and very much more…
I call bullshit. Give me some numbers to back that up. I do 2-3 interviews a week and race is never a consideration. When an engineer is reviewing another engineer's code, I have never ever seen this be an issue.
Re: U.S. Accuses Tech Firm of Bias Against Asian Software Engineers
#4Not surprising. Rich white people want to stick together and give opportunities to other rich white people in their own circle. It's the same for Asian people in Silicon Valley as well--I don't think it's fair to single out one particular race for this type of behavior. Racism seems to be a human characteristic--whether it's in prison or tech firms, racism is pervasive. It would be more interesting and very much more…
I call bullshit. Give me some numbers to back that up. I do 2-3 interviews a week and race is never a consideration. When an engineer is reviewing another engineer's code, I have never ever seen this be an issue.
They'd call that anecdotal evidence.
I don't have numbers to back up the original post, but I'm interested in seeing what he comes back with.
Re: U.S. Accuses Tech Firm of Bias Against Asian Software Engineers
#5Not surprising. Rich white people want to stick together and give opportunities to other rich white people in their own circle. It's the same for Asian people in Silicon Valley as well--I don't think it's fair to single out one particular race for this type of behavior. Racism seems to be a human characteristic--whether it's in prison or tech firms, racism is pervasive. It would be more interesting and very much more…
I call bullshit. Give me some numbers to back that up. I do 2-3 interviews a week and race is never a consideration. When an engineer is reviewing another engineer's code, I have never ever seen this be an issue.
I do not agree with the parent post, but given the laws in the United States, I would be surprised if any interviewer admitted that race [was] a consideration.
Re: U.S. Accuses Tech Firm of Bias Against Asian Software Engineers
#6Not surprising. Rich white people want to stick together and give opportunities to other rich white people in their own circle. It's the same for Asian people in Silicon Valley as well--I don't think it's fair to single out one particular race for this type of behavior. Racism seems to be a human characteristic--whether it's in prison or tech firms, racism is pervasive. It would be more interesting and very much more…
Rich white people?
I resent that comment. There are white people that border each other that hate and kill each other. Russia and Ukraine comes to mind. The United States and Russia comes to mind as another example of two predominantly white countries.
Racism happens because people are ignorant. Has very little to do with "Rich white people" and very much with ignorance that exists in this world.
I will agree that racism seems to be especially prevelant against immigrants in this country. That's something I also attribute to ignorance.
Anyway, I don't want to get into preaching. However, I really wish you would see that your comments are just as inflammatory as the racism you are condemning. You won't solve racism with more ignorant racism.
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#8I've always wondered why many of the larger tech firms don't have anonymous interviewing. Wouldn't it be pretty trivial to implement?
You could just have the candidate go into a room with a computer with no internet access and type out answers to algorithmic questions. The instructions could be delivered via typed text. It would be incredibly impersonal, but it would be hard to discern personality given the industry's propensity to have trivia/algorithm questions.
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#9unconscious bias, conscious bias, outright discrimination. What a quagmire of human existence these topics drift into eh?
No secret, I'm a 51 year old black man living in America. I've been in "high tech" all my life (Commodore Pet). I've run my own company, and worked in and around others, and now reside at Microsoft. My current non-tech mission is the promotion of diversity in hiring in core tech jobs http://www.industryexplorers.com
These are complex issues in complex times. I can say one thing though, much of the current set of biases will slowly dissipate as our children get into positions of power. Ethnicity itself is starting to get very blended. My college aged daughter (who is mixed herself) has friends of all stripes. As they form companies, and hire people, they'll hire like themselves, which is to say an eclectic bunch of people.
The next frontier in bias might be economic stratus, or hair color, or which side of the egg you break open.
I think the best we can do is be as aware as possible, and simply strive to find and work with good people, while holding everyone in high esteem and with respect.