New Snowden leaks unravel mystery behind NSA's UK base
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#2FORNSAT could potentially be iffy, but OVERHEAD and GHOSTHUNTER is exactly the kind of programmes that the NSA and any other national SIGINT agency is supposed to run.
Geographically confined and directed at specific adversaries to achieve clear military goals.
Re: New Snowden leaks unravel mystery behind NSA's UK base
#3EDIT: The source article is a much better, longer, read and does actually indicate new information - suggest the link is updated:
https://theintercept.com/2016/09/06/nsa-menwith-hill-targete...
Not sure how much mystery there was - Duncan Campbell revealed most of this (the Engadget summary anyway) in the 80s.
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#4FORNSAT could potentially be iffy, but OVERHEAD and GHOSTHUNTER is exactly the kind of programmes that the NSA and any other national SIGINT agency is supposed to run. Geographically confined and directed at specific adversaries to achieve clear military goals.
When you say those are the programs that they're "supposed to run", I ask, who gave them that mandate?
Specifically ... Who gets to determine which programs the NSA is allowed to run? And who gets to determine what civilian data they are permitted to retain? And who gets to determine the "acceptable" number of civilian casualties when they bomb in Yemen?
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#5FORNSAT could potentially be iffy, but OVERHEAD and GHOSTHUNTER is exactly the kind of programmes that the NSA and any other national SIGINT agency is supposed to run. Geographically confined and directed at specific adversaries to achieve clear military goals.
Exactly, and I'd be silly not to expect other countries to do the same to the U.S.
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#6FORNSAT could potentially be iffy, but OVERHEAD and GHOSTHUNTER is exactly the kind of programmes that the NSA and any other national SIGINT agency is supposed to run. Geographically confined and directed at specific adversaries to achieve clear military goals.
Governments are not supposed to do as much as they want to do. Governments should be smaller and protect their country. The reputation the US has as the "police of the world" is a negative one because getting into other nation's affairs is ridiculous. If it isn't an imminent threat, it shouldn't be worried about as much. The reason the US should stay in areas such as the middle east right now is because they are the ones that caused the issue. Governments need to get out of each other's hair and worry strictly about their own actions.
Re: New Snowden leaks unravel mystery behind NSA's UK base
#7FORNSAT could potentially be iffy, but OVERHEAD and GHOSTHUNTER is exactly the kind of programmes that the NSA and any other national SIGINT agency is supposed to run. Geographically confined and directed at specific adversaries to achieve clear military goals.
When you say those are the programs that they're "supposed to run", I ask, who gave them that mandate? Specifically ... Who gets to determine which programs the NSA is allowed to run? And who gets to determine what civilian data they are permitted to retain? And who gets to determine the "acceptable" number of civilian casualties when they bomb in Yemen?
Respectively, uhhh... NSA, NSA, and a combination of CIA and Pentagon.
Did you expect checks and balances?
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#8FORNSAT could potentially be iffy, but OVERHEAD and GHOSTHUNTER is exactly the kind of programmes that the NSA and any other national SIGINT agency is supposed to run. Geographically confined and directed at specific adversaries to achieve clear military goals.
You're starting with the assumption that NSA is a good idea in the first place. It's not.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you say those are the programs that they're "supposed to run", I ask, who gave them that mandate? Specifically ... Who gets to determine which programs the NSA is allowed to run? And who gets to determine what civilian data they are permitted to retain? And who gets to determine the "acceptable" number of civilian casualties when they bomb in Yemen?
Respectively, uhhh... NSA, NSA, and a combination of CIA and Pentagon. Did you expect checks and balances?
Galvanized. Wonder how many alarms that word sets off.
* This is your reminder that the total and permanent cessation of human killing and torture must be rapidly achieved.
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#10FORNSAT could potentially be iffy, but OVERHEAD and GHOSTHUNTER is exactly the kind of programmes that the NSA and any other national SIGINT agency is supposed to run. Geographically confined and directed at specific adversaries to achieve clear military goals.
When you say those are the programs that they're "supposed to run", I ask, who gave them that mandate? Specifically ... Who gets to determine which programs the NSA is allowed to run? And who gets to determine what civilian data they are permitted to retain? And who gets to determine the "acceptable" number of civilian casualties when they bomb in Yemen?
"When you say those are the programs that they're "supposed to run", I ask, who gave them that mandate?"
Congress, elected by the people.
Most Americans are supportive of the USA's actions as it relates to spying on Putin etc.
As far as snooping on Americans, it depends on the type.
If Snowden is a 'whistleblower' - he should be talking about things that are clearly out of bounds. When he talks about normal espionage activity - he's committing a pretty serious crime.
The 'whistle blower' who blew the lid in the Abu Garib prison scandal was well protected by the US.