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Victory for Net Neutrality in Europe

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Re: Victory for Net Neutrality in Europe

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Post by nothis »

Disappointingly little concrete information of what's in now, anyone knows how to read these things and skimmed the original text? I heard that EU "net neutrality" is disappointlngly vague. I see providers offering free data for things like Spotify, which, in my understanding, is exactly what net neutrality should prevent.

Re: Victory for Net Neutrality in Europe

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Post by a_bonobo »

nothis wrote: post #3

Disappointingly little concrete information of what's in now, anyone knows how to read these things and skimmed the original text? I heard that EU "net neutrality" is disappointlngly vague. I see providers offering free data for things like Spotify, which, in my understanding, is exactly what net neutrality should prevent.

I think there will be more concrete information in the next few days, as the proposal is a bit long, you can find it here:

http://berec.europa.eu/eng/document_register/subject_matter/...

But it starts well:

>This Regulation aims to establish common rules to safeguard equal and non-discriminatory treatment of traffic in the provision of internet access services and related end-users’ rights. It aims to protect end-users and simultaneously to guarantee the continued functioning of the internet ecosystem as an engine of innovation.

Re: Victory for Net Neutrality in Europe

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Post by smb06 »

Facebook tried to introduce "Free Basics" in Angola after its failed attempts at doing so in India. Good to see similar efforts being made in Angola to educate about Net Neutrality as well. Maybe they can use some takeaway from the above ruling.

Source: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/wikipedia-zero-facebook-fre...

Re: Victory for Net Neutrality in Europe

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Post by mtgx »

nothis wrote: post #3

Disappointingly little concrete information of what's in now, anyone knows how to read these things and skimmed the original text? I heard that EU "net neutrality" is disappointlngly vague. I see providers offering free data for things like Spotify, which, in my understanding, is exactly what net neutrality should prevent.

Yeah, there were some potential issues around "specialized services", zero-rating, "traffic class-based discrimination", and "impending congestion", which prompted a campaign to fix them, but it seems the creators of the campaign also seem pretty excited about the result now:

https://savetheinternet.eu/en/

However, according to Julia Reda above, the policies around zero-rating are still pretty unclear, and it seems they will be decided on a case-by-case basis (not great, but may be a little better than in the U.S., where the FCC seems to have no interest in dealing with zero rating at all).

Re: Victory for Net Neutrality in Europe

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Post by k-mcgrady »

nothis wrote: post #3

Disappointingly little concrete information of what's in now, anyone knows how to read these things and skimmed the original text? I heard that EU "net neutrality" is disappointlngly vague. I see providers offering free data for things like Spotify, which, in my understanding, is exactly what net neutrality should prevent.

>> "I see providers offering free data for things like Spotify"

Any source for this? I've only ever seen providers offer free Spotify membership, not free data.

Edit: Thanks for the responses. I had no idea this was happening.

Re: Victory for Net Neutrality in Europe

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Post by happy_tentacles »

gourou wrote: post #2

These were the guidelines from November 2015 http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX...

The two arguments presented - to keep a legal path for a higher priority routing - during late 2015 Trilogue Negotiations that framed the directive the way it is:

Driverless cars Medical applications (remote operations rooms were mentioned)

You have to give to telecoms - they built the infrastructure and are desperate to design some services that could become additional source of revenues. For now, it seems, the door is shut - maybe with the new automation coming they could dig it up - akin to "you don't want your house to send fire warning to city grid too slow, do you?".

Re: Victory for Net Neutrality in Europe

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Post by petepete »

k-mcgrady wrote: post #7
nothis wrote: post #3

Disappointingly little concrete information of what's in now, anyone knows how to read these things and skimmed the original text? I heard that EU "net neutrality" is disappointlngly vague. I see providers offering free data for things like Spotify, which, in my understanding, is exactly what net neutrality should prevent.

>> "I see providers offering free data for things like Spotify" Any source for this? I've only ever seen providers offer free Spotify membership, not free data. Edit: Thanks for the responses. I had no idea this was happening.

Here's one not from the EU, but Switzerland

https://www.engadget.com/2013/01/21/spotify-signs-deal-with-...

Re: Victory for Net Neutrality in Europe

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Post by FT_intern »

nothis wrote: post #3

Disappointingly little concrete information of what's in now, anyone knows how to read these things and skimmed the original text? I heard that EU "net neutrality" is disappointlngly vague. I see providers offering free data for things like Spotify, which, in my understanding, is exactly what net neutrality should prevent.

of course, Spotify isn't an american company
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