Show HN: Twincl – A New Attempt at “Rich Forum”
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Re: Show HN: Twincl – A New Attempt at “Rich Forum”
#2 > To post or comment on Twincl site, just login with a
> verified Facebook account. Alternatively, you may register
> a new Twincl account, and subscribe to the membership with
> a minimal fee. (Our point is to make the account less
> disposable, which we believe is a key to pleasant community
> experiences.)
If you live forever, that's an infinite amount of money.
cf. metafilter, which charges $5 one time to prevent disposable accounts.
Re: Show HN: Twincl – A New Attempt at “Rich Forum”
#3> To post or comment on Twincl site, just login with a > verified Facebook account. Alternatively, you may register > a new Twincl account, and subscribe to the membership with > a minimal fee. (Our point is to make the account less > disposable, which we believe is a key to pleasant community > experiences.) $5/year or $2/three months. If you live forever, that's an infinite amount of money. cf. metafilter, which ch…
You can use a verified Facebook account to join Twincl site for free. Ideally, we should use our own SMS verification process to prevent disposable accounts - maybe when we have money. Since Facebook does a decent job of fraud account prevention, we leverage their work for now.
Thanks for your comment. We'll take that into account.
Re: Show HN: Twincl – A New Attempt at “Rich Forum”
#4> (Our point is to make the account less disposable, which we believe is a key to pleasant community experiences.)
You mean correlate people for ad-revenue? Sell their personal information to companies they don't do business with? Collect as much stylometric and idiosyncratic information about them as possible, so that advertisers can target them more efficiently?
If you're going to try and hustle people, AT LEAST try and be sneaky about it.
Re: Show HN: Twincl – A New Attempt at “Rich Forum”
#5> To post or comment on Twincl site, just login with a > verified Facebook account. Alternatively, you may register > a new Twincl account, and subscribe to the membership with > a minimal fee. (Our point is to make the account less > disposable, which we believe is a key to pleasant community > experiences.) $5/year or $2/three months. If you live forever, that's an infinite amount of money. cf. metafilter, which ch…
You might live forever, but few social network websites do.
Re: Show HN: Twincl – A New Attempt at “Rich Forum”
#6> Although rich, interactive contents can be made with HTML5/CSS/JavaScript technologies, most Internet users do not possess related programming skills.
Great! Finally someone in the open source forum community designing a UI for the average user!
> On twincl.com, a piece of rich content (which we called a twinclet, pronounced as “twink-lit”) is written with a Markdown fenced code block.
And... they've failed right out of the gate. Face-down in the dirt.
I will never understand the obsession some developers have with Markdown.
Re: Show HN: Twincl – A New Attempt at “Rich Forum”
#7> To post or comment on Twincl site, just login with a > verified Facebook account. Alternatively, you may register > a new Twincl account, and subscribe to the membership with > a minimal fee. (Our point is to make the account less > disposable, which we believe is a key to pleasant community > experiences.) $5/year or $2/three months. If you live forever, that's an infinite amount of money. cf. metafilter, which ch…
You can use a verified Facebook account to join Twincl site for free. Ideally, we should use our own SMS verification process to prevent disposable accounts - maybe when we have money. Since Facebook does a decent job of fraud account prevention, we leverage their work for now. Thanks for your comment. We'll take that into account.
I fully understand your desire to use FB to vet user identities.
I like the idea of twincl. Keep up the good work!
The overlap between the set of people that like twincl and the set of people that don't like facebook may be large.
You know what accounts I don't mind linking? These:
* https://gitlab.com/u/sebboh
* https://github.com/daveloyall/
* https://stackexchange.com/users/2248650/daveloyall
* https://plus.google.com/113507487161654826344
It's because that google account identity is tied to a work email account, too... You know what doesn't go on there? What I do on the weekends. That ends up on facebook even if I don't put it there... So leave that account alone.
Re: Show HN: Twincl – A New Attempt at “Rich Forum”
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can use a verified Facebook account to join Twincl site for free. Ideally, we should use our own SMS verification process to prevent disposable accounts - maybe when we have money. Since Facebook does a decent job of fraud account prevention, we leverage their work for now. Thanks for your comment. We'll take that into account.
I fully understand your desire to use FB to vet user identities. I like the idea of twincl. Keep up the good work! The overlap between the set of people that like twincl and the set of people that don't like facebook may be large. You know what accounts I don't mind linking? These: * https://gitlab.com/u/sebboh * https://github.com/daveloyall/ * https://stackexchange.com/users/2248650/daveloyall * https://plus.google…
It's worth noting that I am permitted more than one Google account, but not more than one Facebook account.
...There MAY be some rule about not having more than one G+ account, right? But, I don't really use that service. It was only included here because it's the only "profile" page I know of for that account.
Re: Show HN: Twincl – A New Attempt at “Rich Forum”
#9> Although rich, interactive contents can be made with HTML5/CSS/JavaScript technologies, most Internet users do not possess related programming skills. Great! Finally someone in the open source forum community designing a UI for the average user! > On twincl.com, a piece of rich content (which we called a twinclet, pronounced as “twink-lit”) is written with a Markdown fenced code block. And... they've failed right o…
Maybe you are right. But Reddit uses Markdown, too, and people seem OK with that? Most redditors are not developers.
Re: Show HN: Twincl – A New Attempt at “Rich Forum”
#10It's an interesting concept, but what's stopping people from making this as a plugin for any other forum script? Because nothing in the page seems like it'd be hard to replicate for a good developer (read, someone who's likely coding add ons for existing platforms).
Seems like it'd be best just to wait for a version for my existing forum script. Or get someone to program one.
The use of markdown is questionable too. As mentioned, normal users find it somewhat awkward. Might work much better with a button/modal driven system to set up the quiz or Tic Tac Toe game...
To post or comment on Twincl site, just login with a verified Facebook account. Alternatively, you may register a new Twincl account, and subscribe to the membership with a minimal fee. (Our point is to make the account less disposable, which we believe is a key to pleasant community experiences.)
And you're gonna struggle here too.
Many people who use forums do not care for Facebook. They especially do not care for trying to tie every single account to an identity with their real name (and likely photo) attached to it.
This is especially true of less 'savoury' subjects, which are some of the subject areas that forums can work really well for. A forum on say, psychological issues or relationship problems is pretty much a non starter with this script. As is any forum in a legally grey area. Or heck, any forum where you just want a different username for whatever reason or don't want the staff/members to know every little thing about you.
Or any forum where themed usernames are a big part of the community. No one's going to pay $5 a year to call themselves say, Mario. Or Master Chief. Or Pikachu.
So it seems like the registration system basically makes it a non starter for any forum where people want some anonymity/privacy, any forum about a fictional universe or series (or where role playing is a thing) or any forum relating to anything remotely illicit or legally grey.
It has some interesting concepts, but the membership stuff is a problem and the UI stuff seems like it's both a tad complicated and easily copyable by your competitors.