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Garrison Keillor Turns Out the Lights on Lake Wobegon

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One of the things Keillor handled so well in his story telling was the mostly insignificant but somehow important differences between Lutherans, Catholics, and the other denominations and religions. I grew up in a very small town in Ontario and it often felt like he had borrowed characters from my past (and then softened them and made them more likable).

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It's long saddened me that you can't get Prairie Home Companion as a podcast: there's too many songs from too many authors so they don't even try to acquire the rights. Our copyright regime still needs to adapt to the modern world.

How do copyright laws differ between podcasts and broadcast radio? Wouldn't the rights need to be acquired anyway to put it over the airwaves, or is there some fundamental difference between how things are handled on radio vs. the internet?

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My friends and I all grew up listening to Garrison Keillor, raised by parents who themselves grew up listening to Garrison Keillor. Keillor's retirement has very much felt like abruptly losing contact with many old friends at once.

I just hope Lake Wobegon is doing alright without us.

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It's long saddened me that you can't get Prairie Home Companion as a podcast: there's too many songs from too many authors so they don't even try to acquire the rights. Our copyright regime still needs to adapt to the modern world.

How do copyright laws differ between podcasts and broadcast radio? Wouldn't the rights need to be acquired anyway to put it over the airwaves, or is there some fundamental difference between how things are handled on radio vs. the internet?

Radio stations can pay royalties to a middleman (SoundExchange) for "ephemeral" rights, but since the mechanism of podcasting requires on-demand playback and downloading to the device, acquiring ephemeral rights is not sufficient.

I think streams where you don't pick the song that comes up next can also be licensed more similarly to radio broadcasts.

The law itself isn't really the question here; it's more the economic entities and standard agreements built to sustain broadcast use of music can't be adapted to podcast use in a cost-effective way.

This is also why we don't have the Massive Attack song as the intro to "House, M.D." on streaming services any more.

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It's long saddened me that you can't get Prairie Home Companion as a podcast: there's too many songs from too many authors so they don't even try to acquire the rights. Our copyright regime still needs to adapt to the modern world.

How do copyright laws differ between podcasts and broadcast radio? Wouldn't the rights need to be acquired anyway to put it over the airwaves, or is there some fundamental difference between how things are handled on radio vs. the internet?

There's a fundamental difference. Radio broadcasts are generally considered public performances, and generally handled under blanket licenses with ASCAP, BMI, and the like. There is also a separate blanket licensing scheme for digital streaming radio, SoundExchange. There is no blanket licensing for digital downloads; thus, to provide digital downloads that contain music, PRI would have to negotiate separate contracts with each of the copyright holders.

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My friends and I all grew up listening to Garrison Keillor, raised by parents who themselves grew up listening to Garrison Keillor. Keillor's retirement has very much felt like abruptly losing contact with many old friends at once. I just hope Lake Wobegon is doing alright without us.

Yeah, this.

I'm 33, I've been listening to PHC since I was 10 or so, its something I've spent a majority of my Saturday afternoons doing - I look forward to the new host and the new format, but its clear to me that it will never be quite the same.

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My friends and I all grew up listening to Garrison Keillor, raised by parents who themselves grew up listening to Garrison Keillor. Keillor's retirement has very much felt like abruptly losing contact with many old friends at once. I just hope Lake Wobegon is doing alright without us.

Yeah, it still harkens back to when I was young and my parents had NPR on in the kitchen while preparing dinner.

I do the same thing in my house, though I have to say, I don't think my wife and kids appreciate it as much.

I'll miss Lake Wobegon, always a wonderful place to visit on the weekends.

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My friends and I all grew up listening to Garrison Keillor, raised by parents who themselves grew up listening to Garrison Keillor. Keillor's retirement has very much felt like abruptly losing contact with many old friends at once. I just hope Lake Wobegon is doing alright without us.

I grew up the same way :) ... except he rubs me the wrong way, I think he's not at all interesting or clever, a completely banal failed ironic, with a deep streak of hate inside.
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