Anders Ericsson on deliberate practice
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Anders Ericsson on deliberate practice
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Re: Anders Ericsson on deliberate practice
#2The "deliberate practice" the article mentions is the "ha" in Shuhari.
> In shu, we repeat the forms and discipline ourselves so that our bodies absorb the forms that our forebears created. We remain faithful to these forms with no deviation. Next, in the stage of ha, once we have disciplined ourselves to acquire the forms and movements, we make innovations. In this process the forms may be broken and discarded. Finally, in ri, we completely depart from the forms, open the door to creative technique, and arrive in a place where we act in accordance with what our heart/mind desires, unhindered while not overstepping laws.
Re: Anders Ericsson on deliberate practice
#3This author did an excellent podcast with James Altucher. Really crystalized a lot of the principles in his book and made it actionable.
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#4So, practice is necessary but not sufficient. It cannot compensate for lack of talent. We don't know why some people are talented and some aren't. We can only recognise it in certain fields (e.g. athletics, music). However, and switching to personal speculation: although people know different things and are interested in different things, there is only one kind of talent, is my guess.
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#5I'm looking forward to reading the book.
In my experience with deliberate practice, there are a couple of ingredients from that brief article:
* Breaking a skill down into achievable progressions
* A roadmap of how progressions lead to different "sweet spots" of expertise within that practice
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#6i used to work in the adult entertainment industry... i was always amused(and shocked) at who they would pick as "experts" when doing interviews on TV. it really ruined all "experts" for me, as now i assume they are the equivalent in their field as the goons whom were "speaking" for the adult industry were.
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#7Who knew? If you work a good trainer/mentor, you can get better at what you do.
Re: Anders Ericsson on deliberate practice
#8i used to work in the adult entertainment industry... i was always amused(and shocked) at who they would pick as "experts" when doing interviews on TV. it really ruined all "experts" for me, as now i assume they are the equivalent in their field as the goons whom were "speaking" for the adult industry were.
Having been picked as an "expert" in my field several times in the past, the cited expert is usually the first person they talk to that isn't already busy.
Re: Anders Ericsson on deliberate practice
#9i used to work in the adult entertainment industry... i was always amused(and shocked) at who they would pick as "experts" when doing interviews on TV. it really ruined all "experts" for me, as now i assume they are the equivalent in their field as the goons whom were "speaking" for the adult industry were.
That's always been the case with the media, any time they talk about something you are knowledgeable about you will find inaccuracies.
Re: Anders Ericsson on deliberate practice
#10So, practice is necessary but not sufficient. It cannot compensate for lack of talent. We don't know why some people are talented and some aren't. We can only recognise it in certain fields (e.g. athletics, music). However, and switching to personal speculation: although people know different things and are interested in different things, there is only one kind of talent, is my guess.
Did we read the same article?
> When I spoke with Ericsson by phone in May, he told me that people who think practice can only get you so far aren't talking about the same kind of practice as he is.
> As for whether genetic differences - say, in cognitive or physical ability - account for variations in achievement, Ericsson is skeptical.
The whole article, Ericsson sticks to "deliberate practice" (as defined by him) as being the sole determiner of mastery of a skill. Other researchers claim to debunk his findings. He claims that they conflate "practice" with "deliberate practice" and therefore didn't debunk him.
I don't know enough to judge which is correct (Ericsson or his detractors), but your comment isn't how I'd summarize the article, or the conclusions I'd draw from it.