Oracle whistleblower suit raises questions over cloud accounting
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#2Slightly relevant - about Oracle and its single-minded pursuit of money over all else:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=33m
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#3I hate Oracle with a burning passion. How that company has survived all these years is baffling to me, who is still paying their ridiculous maintenance contracts?
Also, fuck Larry Ellison.
Re: Oracle whistleblower suit raises questions over cloud accounting
#4Slightly relevant - about Oracle and its single-minded pursuit of money over all else: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=33m
Bryan Cantrill is very passionate in the talk recorded in this video. Now I learned something about illumos.
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#5Slightly relevant - about Oracle and its single-minded pursuit of money over all else: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=33m
I don't understand Oracle hate. Yep, they're all about making money, but at the end of the day, that's what most businesses are doing, and the ones who say otherwise are bullshitting you with crap their marketing department made up. Only in start-up bizarro world can a company give away free products and have negative or zero profit margin and be considered "succeeding".
It makes no sense to me to hear people working at for-profit companies complaining that other companies only exist to make money. It's inconsistent, at the very least.
Open source is great, volunteering is great, sharing and giving stuff away is great, etc., but businesses and corporations only exist to make money for the people who own them and work for them.
Re: Oracle whistleblower suit raises questions over cloud accounting
#6Slightly relevant - about Oracle and its single-minded pursuit of money over all else: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=33m
I don't understand Oracle hate. Yep, they're all about making money, but at the end of the day, that's what most businesses are doing, and the ones who say otherwise are bullshitting you with crap their marketing department made up. Only in start-up bizarro world can a company give away free products and have negative or zero profit margin and be considered "succeeding". It makes no sense to me to hear people working…
Seriously? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_America,_Inc._v._Google....
Shall I go on?
Re: Oracle whistleblower suit raises questions over cloud accounting
#7Slightly relevant - about Oracle and its single-minded pursuit of money over all else: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=33m
I don't understand Oracle hate. Yep, they're all about making money, but at the end of the day, that's what most businesses are doing, and the ones who say otherwise are bullshitting you with crap their marketing department made up. Only in start-up bizarro world can a company give away free products and have negative or zero profit margin and be considered "succeeding". It makes no sense to me to hear people working…
I dislike Oracle because their products (at least the ones I've used) are horrible to use, and insanely expensive.
Edit: I'm talking about the Oracle database products, not Java, the stuff they acquired with Sun, etc.
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand Oracle hate. Yep, they're all about making money, but at the end of the day, that's what most businesses are doing, and the ones who say otherwise are bullshitting you with crap their marketing department made up. Only in start-up bizarro world can a company give away free products and have negative or zero profit margin and be considered "succeeding". It makes no sense to me to hear people working…
I dislike Oracle because their products (at least the ones I've used) are horrible to use, and insanely expensive. Edit: I'm talking about the Oracle database products, not Java, the stuff they acquired with Sun, etc.
That's completely fair, but the parent poster commented about Oracle trying to make money and linked to a 5 minute rant about it.
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#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand Oracle hate. Yep, they're all about making money, but at the end of the day, that's what most businesses are doing, and the ones who say otherwise are bullshitting you with crap their marketing department made up. Only in start-up bizarro world can a company give away free products and have negative or zero profit margin and be considered "succeeding". It makes no sense to me to hear people working…
Seriously? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_America,_Inc._v._Google... . Shall I go on?
I'm not sure how that changes anything I said.
FWIW, Google does it too: https://www.scribd.com/doc/40513712/Google-v-US-Complaint
And I understand, the cases are not the same at all, but it highlights that Oracle is hardly the only tech company who will take to the courts to help themselves make money.
Re: Oracle whistleblower suit raises questions over cloud accounting
#10Slightly relevant - about Oracle and its single-minded pursuit of money over all else: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc&t=33m
I don't understand Oracle hate. Yep, they're all about making money, but at the end of the day, that's what most businesses are doing, and the ones who say otherwise are bullshitting you with crap their marketing department made up. Only in start-up bizarro world can a company give away free products and have negative or zero profit margin and be considered "succeeding". It makes no sense to me to hear people working…
The problem here isn't asserting that businesses and corporations exist to make money.
It's asserting that they only exist to make money. Or that that is in any way natural.
For a company to focus entirely on making money when they don't have enough money to operate is, let's say, understandable. But since companies are run by humans, and humans are quite adept at balancing different goals at the same time, it's not at all beyond reason to expect a company that is making money hand over fist to also focus on more than just that. It's not at all bad to judge them if they choose not to do that, nor to consider them worse than other companies that both make money hand over fist and choose to focus on more than just making more money.
It is in no way inconsistent to work at a for-profit company and complain that another company only exists to make money. Even if you are the chief executive of a for-profit company that both makes money and has additional goals beyond that, you aren't being inconsistent. But if you aren't the chief executive? If you are an employee whose day-to-day job actually isn't directly to make money, even if it is, somewhere above you, being guided by that goal? That doesn't even come close to inconsistent, IMO.
Most businesses are making money. That's not the same as being all about making money. Confusing the two is a really good way to discount the companies who manage perfectly well to make money without losing their souls to that goal[1].
[1] - I'm not really saying Oracle is one of these companies; I've never worked for them or interacted with them (though I've heard plenty of tales). I'm taking issue with the broader statement, because I think it's a fundamentally problematic lens to view the world through.