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The Estonian president wants a more digitally-integrated Europe

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Re: The Estonian president wants a more digitally-integrated Europe

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Great push for use of latest technologies, especially for government sector.

I skimmed the article, and I do not see a mention of Estonia's e-voting. AFAIK, they are using (IMHO) flawed system, that they just believe it works (i.e. it was not breached). Estonia is very innovative in technological sector, but their e-voting system is a very risky play with their democracy.

Re: The Estonian president wants a more digitally-integrated Europe

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Great push for use of latest technologies, especially for government sector. I skimmed the article, and I do not see a mention of Estonia's e-voting. AFAIK, they are using (IMHO) flawed system, that they just believe it works (i.e. it was not breached). Estonia is very innovative in technological sector, but their e-voting system is a very risky play with their democracy.

I was watching this just yesterday, a thourough (it seems) review of the Estonian system.

https://media.ccc.de/v/31c3_-_6344_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201412281...

Re: The Estonian president wants a more digitally-integrated Europe

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But the biggest problem is that iTunes itself is badly developed? Apple way is that each user has a Macbook which has an iTunes to which user can sync her/his iPhone. Syncing many mobile devices into one machine with one iTunes gets messy.

I'm guessing you didn't get past the headline.

Re: The Estonian president wants a more digitally-integrated Europe

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Great push for use of latest technologies, especially for government sector. I skimmed the article, and I do not see a mention of Estonia's e-voting. AFAIK, they are using (IMHO) flawed system, that they just believe it works (i.e. it was not breached). Estonia is very innovative in technological sector, but their e-voting system is a very risky play with their democracy.

I was watching this just yesterday, a thourough (it seems) review of the Estonian system. https://media.ccc.de/v/31c3_-_6344_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201412281...

I haven’t seen the video, by my feeling is that there’s no need to “review” any e-voting system, since the very concept is irredeemably flawed. If a person can in any way prove to a third party what they voted on, then the system is wide open to coercion of voters. If I can e-vote, then someone could force me at gunpoint to log in and e-vote to their liking instead of mine. If the system allows changing my vote later with some sort of password, they can simply take my password away from me. If changing one’s vote is hard, like having to actually going to a poll booth, then they could make sure that I am either watched or made unavoidably busy for the duration. I could easily see these techniques being deployed at scale towards more easily cowed sections of the citizenry, like the poor.

Re: The Estonian president wants a more digitally-integrated Europe

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was watching this just yesterday, a thourough (it seems) review of the Estonian system. https://media.ccc.de/v/31c3_-_6344_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201412281...

I haven’t seen the video, by my feeling is that there’s no need to “review” any e-voting system, since the very concept is irredeemably flawed. If a person can in any way prove to a third party what they voted on, then the system is wide open to coercion of voters. If I can e-vote, then someone could force me at gunpoint to log in and e-vote to their liking instead of mine. If the system allows changing my vote later…

Oh nice, your technique could then be used succesfully against ANY voting. Right? Just watching the boots. Because keeping the poor or 30% of population watched at gunpoint 24/7 for 2 weeks in Europe so that nobody notices is perfectly easy.
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