Australia’s Offshore Cruelty
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Australia’s Offshore Cruelty
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#2Not just limited to refugees, see
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/australia-is-a-bad-neighbour-a...
The attitude and actions against East Timor are especially egregious.
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#4Interestingly, the company outsourced to run the two off-shore "processing centres" was started by an immigrant from Italy.
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#5I deplore the current policies that treat refugees as criminals. Dutton is engaging in the dog-whistle politics that got the former Prime Minister Abbott elected.
And during the current federal election campaign, the Labor opposition can't be seen as soft compared to the government (and is even claiming some credit for setting up elements of the "offshore processing").
But, I cannot condone restarting the people smuggling trade that puts so many in danger at sea (also in the Med). The bottom line is that we should be targeting the people smugglers, not the people.
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#6There's been endless international accusations this program is illegal and that human rights are being grossly violated. Hopefully there'll be a lovely debate about it in the ICC one day.
http://www.theguardian.com/law/2016/may/18/australias-indefi...
http://refugeeaction.org/information/how-australia-violates-...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-24/australias-immigration...
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#7Because more liberal refugee policy is working so great for Europe right now. I have never seen any one who is for refugees/illegal immigrants (queue jumpers) explain how a better system would work, just that the current system is unjust and broken?
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#8Because more liberal refugee policy is working so great for Europe right now. I have never seen any one who is for refugees/illegal immigrants (queue jumpers) explain how a better system would work, just that the current system is unjust and broken?
Refugees and illegal immigrants are not the same. Seeking asylum is a legal path to immigration in most countries - because most countries are signatories to international treaties which oblige them to accept requests for asylum by legitimate refugees. It is perfectly logical and sensible to be in favor of a humane asylum system and vehemently opposed to illegal immigration.
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#9Because more liberal refugee policy is working so great for Europe right now. I have never seen any one who is for refugees/illegal immigrants (queue jumpers) explain how a better system would work, just that the current system is unjust and broken?
Refugees and illegal immigrants are not the same . Seeking asylum is a legal path to immigration in most countries - because most countries are signatories to international treaties which oblige them to accept requests for asylum by legitimate refugees. It is perfectly logical and sensible to be in favor of a humane asylum system and vehemently opposed to illegal immigration.
How do you tell the difference when everyone who comes by boat claims to be a refugee? Lets not forget they catch planes to Indonesia and then board boats, why not claim asylum in Indonesia?
Lets all get on the same page as well, this is how the United Nation defines an asylum seeker:
The United Nations 1951 Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees and the 1967 Protocol Relating to the Status of Refugees guides national legislation concerning political asylum. Under these agreements, a refugee (or for cases where repressing base means has been applied directly or environmentally to the defoulé refugee) is a person who is outside their own country's territory (or place of habitual residence if stateless) owing to fear of persecution on protected grounds. Protected grounds include race, caste, nationality, religion, political opinions and membership and/or participation in any particular social group or social activities.
Fleeing poor living conditions or a civil war, do not fall under this description.
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#10Because more liberal refugee policy is working so great for Europe right now. I have never seen any one who is for refugees/illegal immigrants (queue jumpers) explain how a better system would work, just that the current system is unjust and broken?
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