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LAPD hacked into iPhone 5S belonging to slain wife of 'Shield' actor

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Re: LAPD hacked into iPhone 5S belonging to slain wife of 'Shield' actor

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It's no wonder that Apple is becoming increasingly pushy about updates on iOS. I've noticed in the last few months that the new pop-up options are to either "remind me later" (and it absolutely will) or "update now."

I think a huge part of it is trying to stay ahead of this security curve.

Exploits are going to continue to be found in older versions of iOS (and every other piece of software, for that matter). It's kind of disheartening to think that if the authorities just hold your phone long enough, they'll eventually have an exploit to unlock it with.

Re: LAPD hacked into iPhone 5S belonging to slain wife of 'Shield' actor

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The killing was 19/05/2014. iOS8 came out on 17/09/2014, and the iPhone 5S launched with iOS7. It’ll have been iOS7, and hence unencrypted by default in a way Apple (and presumably attackers) can access.

That sounds right. There are a few unanswered questions.

"[I]n 2015, an Apple technician was ordered by an L.A. judge to help police extract data from the phone's hard drive, according to the search warrant."

So, did Apply comply? If they did, or if they didn't, I don't think this has been reported anywhere.

Perhaps Apple complied and imaged the disk, and afterwards, LA needed a consultant to actually make something of it.

Re: LAPD hacked into iPhone 5S belonging to slain wife of 'Shield' actor

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Every time I hear about a husband -> wife murder case that doesn't involve a prior violent crime history or some large amount of physical and circumstantial evidence the two words that go through my mind are "tunnel vision," Without leads the cops just latch on to the only thing they have which is "well... ugh... divorce law gives him a monetary incentive to bust a cap in her ass now don't it?"

I'd like to hear what the defense has to say. I think it's really fishy for a journalist to write an article that basically parrots the prosecution. Maybe the defense couldn't be reached for comment...well then say that if it's the case.

Re: LAPD hacked into iPhone 5S belonging to slain wife of 'Shield' actor

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post #4

The killing was 19/05/2014. iOS8 came out on 17/09/2014, and the iPhone 5S launched with iOS7. It’ll have been iOS7, and hence unencrypted by default in a way Apple (and presumably attackers) can access.

That sounds right. There are a few unanswered questions. "[I]n 2015, an Apple technician was ordered by an L.A. judge to help police extract data from the phone's hard drive, according to the search warrant." So, did Apply comply? If they did, or if they didn't, I don't think this has been reported anywhere. Perhaps Apple complied and imaged the disk, and afterwards, LA needed a consultant to actually make something…

There are various statements issued by Apple stating that they do cooperate with law enforcement when they can, and that pre-full-disk-encryption, they generally did.

That said, they sometimes go out of their way to make it inconvenient - if you want data provided on physical media, you have to supply a firewire disk

Re: LAPD hacked into iPhone 5S belonging to slain wife of 'Shield' actor

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Every time I hear about a husband -> wife murder case that doesn't involve a prior violent crime history or some large amount of physical and circumstantial evidence the two words that go through my mind are "tunnel vision," Without leads the cops just latch on to the only thing they have which is "well... ugh... divorce law gives him a monetary incentive to bust a cap in her ass now don't it?" I'd like to hear what…

This doesn't seem like a case of tunnel vision. The evidence and circumstances of the theory do seem to point towards the husband. Of course, the trial may reveal Jace's innocence, but there seems to be enough evidence that I don't think "lazy police work" applies in this case.

Also: "Jace's attorney and the prosecutor assigned to his case could not be reached for comment."

Re: LAPD hacked into iPhone 5S belonging to slain wife of 'Shield' actor

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Every time I hear about a husband -> wife murder case that doesn't involve a prior violent crime history or some large amount of physical and circumstantial evidence the two words that go through my mind are "tunnel vision," Without leads the cops just latch on to the only thing they have which is "well... ugh... divorce law gives him a monetary incentive to bust a cap in her ass now don't it?" I'd like to hear what…

"Jace's attorney and the prosecutor assigned to his case could not be reached for comment."

Re: LAPD hacked into iPhone 5S belonging to slain wife of 'Shield' actor

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds right. There are a few unanswered questions. "[I]n 2015, an Apple technician was ordered by an L.A. judge to help police extract data from the phone's hard drive, according to the search warrant." So, did Apply comply? If they did, or if they didn't, I don't think this has been reported anywhere. Perhaps Apple complied and imaged the disk, and afterwards, LA needed a consultant to actually make something…

There are various statements issued by Apple stating that they do cooperate with law enforcement when they can, and that pre-full-disk-encryption, they generally did. That said, they sometimes go out of their way to make it inconvenient - if you want data provided on physical media, you have to supply a firewire disk

Yes. There is a huge difference between:

1. "Here's how to break the phone's encryption using available tools today", and;

2. "Here's a less-secure version of the OS, we'll use our digital signature to convince the phone to accept it."

If they ever do the latter, they can be sure it won't be long before they start getting warrants to push insecure OS updates to everyone named as a "person of interest," which seems to be everyone these days.

And the next time a Snowden leaks that Apple is sending insecure OS updates to more-or-less all iPhones, they have lost an enormous amount of goodwill and brand recognition.

A lot of people believe (rightly or wrongly) that run-of-the-mill Android phones are insecure because the carriers won't push updates, but that you can trust top-tier manufacturers like Apple to keep your phone secure.

The last thing they need is for people to say "Cheap Android, Expensive iPhone, there's no difference."

Re: LAPD hacked into iPhone 5S belonging to slain wife of 'Shield' actor

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It's no wonder that Apple is becoming increasingly pushy about updates on iOS. I've noticed in the last few months that the new pop-up options are to either "remind me later" (and it absolutely will) or "update now." I think a huge part of it is trying to stay ahead of this security curve. Exploits are going to continue to be found in older versions of iOS (and every other piece of software, for that matter). It's ki…

It is interesting when Microsoft did the same with Windows most my peers were pretty outraged. Imagine clicking remind me later in the morning, start a long running process when you are just about to go to have lunch and coming back to Windows installing updates after a restart.

I don't think Apple gains anything substantial from pushing security fixes, however eroding user control could be in their interest.

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