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CopperheadOS: A hardened open-source operating system based on Android

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Re: CopperheadOS: A hardened open-source operating system based on Android

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"It will not support devices outside of the Nexus and Pixel lines." This is really sad to me. :/ As far as we've come, everything mobile is still irritatingly device-specific.

Blame the OEMs for that. The driver situation on ARM devices is quite dire.

Re: CopperheadOS: A hardened open-source operating system based on Android

#4

"It will not support devices outside of the Nexus and Pixel lines." This is really sad to me. :/ As far as we've come, everything mobile is still irritatingly device-specific.

"Devices will be supported until Google drops support from the Android Open Source Project. Google guarantees major version updates for at least two years after launch. Security updates are guaranteed for three years after launch along with 1.5 years after the last device is sold."

As someone that is still using a phone from 2012, this is problematic since I have no intention of getting a new phone that often. Is there no stable, secure, and open combination of OS and smartphone out there?

Re: CopperheadOS: A hardened open-source operating system based on Android

#5

"It will not support devices outside of the Nexus and Pixel lines." This is really sad to me. :/ As far as we've come, everything mobile is still irritatingly device-specific.

Blame the OEMs for that. The driver situation on ARM devices is quite dire.

Is this a side-effect of mobile devices having extremely tight requirement for power usage and packaging? I could see how that, and a huge number of functions being packaged into a single SOC would make each board design far less generalizable from either one generation to the next or one form factor to the next. On the other hand, that doesn't preclude drivers for the relevant chipsets being more easily available. Do phone manufacturers write their own drivers for all these chips as a matter of course, or do the chip providers ship something with what they put out?

Re: CopperheadOS: A hardened open-source operating system based on Android

#6

"It will not support devices outside of the Nexus and Pixel lines." This is really sad to me. :/ As far as we've come, everything mobile is still irritatingly device-specific.

Blame the OEMs for that. The driver situation on ARM devices is quite dire.

It is very dire and painful :-(

Re: CopperheadOS: A hardened open-source operating system based on Android

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blame the OEMs for that. The driver situation on ARM devices is quite dire.

Is this a side-effect of mobile devices having extremely tight requirement for power usage and packaging? I could see how that, and a huge number of functions being packaged into a single SOC would make each board design far less generalizable from either one generation to the next or one form factor to the next. On the other hand, that doesn't preclude drivers for the relevant chipsets being more easily available. D…

I think in reality it's simply a matter of everyone having their own build of the kernel and needing their own set of kernel modules. Google could have solved this in some way with Android, went for something closer to the way drivers work on Windows, a single long term service kernel that everyone builds their drivers against.

But instead they told everyone to just build it themselves... resulting in the current situation. They could have also solved the updating problem in the same way.

No big deal though, someone will make this build on other platforms if there's interest. It's all open source and I'm sure some 14 year olds on XDA are already racing to make it build on their phone from 1982. Then I'll probably flash it. Because that's apparently who I trust to write my phone ROM.

Re: CopperheadOS: A hardened open-source operating system based on Android

#8
This project seems interesting but largely impractical until a truly independent FOSS app store exists with a wide selection + security track record as good as Google Play or iTunes.

I don't see how it gets there with such a narrow hardware selection.

Re: CopperheadOS: A hardened open-source operating system based on Android

#10

This project seems interesting but largely impractical until a truly independent FOSS app store exists with a wide selection + security track record as good as Google Play or iTunes. I don't see how it gets there with such a narrow hardware selection.

https://guardianproject.info/2016/03/28/copperhead-guardian-...

There you go!

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