Working on HTML5.1

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Post by davecardwell » Mon, Apr 11, 2016, 4:00 PM UTC

Working on HTML5.1
w3.org

Re: Working on HTML5.1

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Post by davecardwell » Mon, Apr 11, 2016, 4:09 PM UTC

Changelog available here: https://w3c.github.io/html/changes.html

Re: Working on HTML5.1

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Post by yincrash » Mon, Apr 11, 2016, 8:13 PM UTC

Has this diverged from WHATWG's "living" HTML spec or is it just a snapshot of it?

Re: Working on HTML5.1

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Post by cmrx64 » Mon, Apr 11, 2016, 8:22 PM UTC

yincrash wrote: post #3

Has this diverged from WHATWG's "living" HTML spec or is it just a snapshot of it?

The WHATWG and W3C are only vaguely related. https://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ#WHATWG_and_the_W3C_HTML_WG

Re: Working on HTML5.1

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Post by mozumder » Mon, Apr 11, 2016, 8:35 PM UTC

yincrash wrote: post #3

Has this diverged from WHATWG's "living" HTML spec or is it just a snapshot of it?

They basically hate each other.

Re: Working on HTML5.1

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Post by kensai » Mon, Apr 11, 2016, 8:35 PM UTC

Is there 6.0 in the works also somewhere? Given the language's importance in a future universally-connected world, it would not surprise me.

Re: Working on HTML5.1

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Post by rhinoceraptor » Mon, Apr 11, 2016, 8:36 PM UTC

It would be nice if people claiming to support web standards (Mozilla) would actually implement HTML5 already (new HTML5 input types).

Re: Working on HTML5.1

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Post by stupidcar » Mon, Apr 11, 2016, 8:55 PM UTC

yincrash wrote: post #3

Has this diverged from WHATWG's "living" HTML spec or is it just a snapshot of it?

I'm guessing it's yet another hostile fork: https://annevankesteren.nl/2016/01/film-at-11

As far as I understand, they (the W3C) do this every few months in an attempt to wrest defacto control of HTML back from WHATWG. They copy the WHATWG spec, strip out the licensing and authorship information, and publish as "their" HTML spec.

Then a few months passes, their copy falls behind the actively edited WHATWG one, so they have to fork it again. And so on, and so on.

It's really pretty pathetic.

Re: Working on HTML5.1

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Post by currysausage » Mon, Apr 11, 2016, 9:07 PM UTC

stupidcar wrote: post #8

yincrash wrote: post #3

Has this diverged from WHATWG's "living" HTML spec or is it just a snapshot of it?

I'm guessing it's yet another hostile fork: https://annevankesteren.nl/2016/01/film-at-11 As far as I understand, they (the W3C) do this every few months in an attempt to wrest defacto control of HTML back from WHATWG. They copy the WHATWG spec, strip out the licensing and authorship information, and publish as "their" HTML spec. Then a few months passes, their copy falls behind the actively edited WHATWG one, so the…

This message by Hixie is very insightful if you like to delve into the details of WHATWG/W3C politics: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2014Apr/0034...

Re: Working on HTML5.1

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Post by currysausage » Mon, Apr 11, 2016, 9:12 PM UTC

kensai wrote: post #6

Is there 6.0 in the works also somewhere? Given the language's importance in a future universally-connected world, it would not surprise me.

Kinda. WHATWG (who do the actual work on HTML) have dropped the version number and made HTML a living standard: https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/

And this quote by Hixie: "You know what will be around ten years from now by looking at what is implemented in two browsers today. If it’s implemented in two browsers today, I can almost guarantee it’ll still be around in ten years. If it’s not, all bets are off. This has nothing to do with “living standard” vs. versioned specs, though. HTML4 has all kinds of features that aren’t in HTML anymore — for example, and ." (http://html5doctor.com/interview-with-ian-hickson-html-edito...)