When mechanical analog computers ruled the waves (2014)
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When mechanical analog computers ruled the waves (2014)
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#2Earlier discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7419837
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#3Dave Jones of EEVBlog recently tore down an analog navigation computer used on the B52 if you want to see inside a mechanical computer of this type https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzGaO4Kdz2Y
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#4Those instructional videos in the article are extremely well done. They seem to be part of a longer film, does anyone know if it can be found online?
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#5Those instructional videos in the article are extremely well done. They seem to be part of a longer film, does anyone know if it can be found online?
I think it's this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1i-dnAH9Y4
(it's "Basic Mechanisms in Fire Control Computers" parts 1 and 2, from 1953)
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#6My dad's eng degree is in electromagnetic mechanics . He graduated just as mechanical relays (actually analog computer controlling a relay) in the power grid were being replaced by electrical ones.
A few interesting things he points out:
-Throughout his career nothing has had the longevity of these mechanical devices. As late as the 2000s he had projects replacing mechanical relays installed in the 30s. Digital becomes obsolete and needs replacement in ten years when the manufacturer stops support.
-If a Turing machine can be implemented as an electrical circuit, and an digital computer is, ultimately, an analog circuit; then an analog circuit can do at least as much as a digital can. It's just impossibly more difficult to do.
Re: When mechanical analog computers ruled the waves (2014)
#7My dad's eng degree is in electromagnetic mechanics . He graduated just as mechanical relays (actually analog computer controlling a relay) in the power grid were being replaced by electrical ones. A few interesting things he points out: -Throughout his career nothing has had the longevity of these mechanical devices. As late as the 2000s he had projects replacing mechanical relays installed in the 30s. Digital becom…
i'm not aware of anyone replacing digital relays after 10 years.
The SEL relays we buy have a 10 year warranty and are designed to last at least 25 years: https://selinc.com/company/quality/
Re: When mechanical analog computers ruled the waves (2014)
#8My dad's eng degree is in electromagnetic mechanics . He graduated just as mechanical relays (actually analog computer controlling a relay) in the power grid were being replaced by electrical ones. A few interesting things he points out: -Throughout his career nothing has had the longevity of these mechanical devices. As late as the 2000s he had projects replacing mechanical relays installed in the 30s. Digital becom…
i'm not aware of anyone replacing digital relays after 10 years. The SEL relays we buy have a 10 year warranty and are designed to last at least 25 years: https://selinc.com/company/quality/
It was a bit of hyperbole. But digital rot really is not taken as seriously as it should.
I mean the Iowa computers were on combat duty until the 80s.
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#9For more info read the very good "Between Human and Machine: Feedback, Control, and Computing before Cybernetics" by David Mindell.
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#10Those instructional videos in the article are extremely well done. They seem to be part of a longer film, does anyone know if it can be found online?
I think it's this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1i-dnAH9Y4 (it's "Basic Mechanisms in Fire Control Computers" parts 1 and 2, from 1953)
Thank you so much! No Netflix tonight ;-)