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PayPal Withdraws Plan for Charlotte Expansion

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Re: PayPal Withdraws Plan for Charlotte Expansion

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Great political move on PayPals part. And good social move to put pressure on the politics of NC. But... This is mostly for show. If they really meant it they would not do business in Uganda, DRC, Kazakhstan, etc. places where it's de jure illegal to be out as LGBT.

So, while the side effect of their PR is good, it's more or less a side effect of PR for them. I'll believe their intentions when the move out of all places which have medieval anti LGBT laws.

Re: PayPal Withdraws Plan for Charlotte Expansion

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post #2

Great political move on PayPals part. And good social move to put pressure on the politics of NC. But... This is mostly for show. If they really meant it they would not do business in Uganda, DRC, Kazakhstan, etc. places where it's de jure illegal to be out as LGBT. So, while the side effect of their PR is good, it's more or less a side effect of PR for them. I'll believe their intentions when the move out of all pla…

You're not wrong, but I'll take self motivated good deeds over apathy any day.

Re: PayPal Withdraws Plan for Charlotte Expansion

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Good, I hope more companies follow. I understand some people's reservations with how fast the cultural landscape is changing. The biggest problem I have is underhanded tactics, asinine euphemisms, and feigned naiveté by the people trying to pass these laws. If you truly feel you are on the right side, why try (so feebly) to hide your intentions?

You are either a brave culture warrior fighting for what's right or you're a cowardly bigot. You can't be both.

Re: PayPal Withdraws Plan for Charlotte Expansion

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post #2

Great political move on PayPals part. And good social move to put pressure on the politics of NC. But... This is mostly for show. If they really meant it they would not do business in Uganda, DRC, Kazakhstan, etc. places where it's de jure illegal to be out as LGBT. So, while the side effect of their PR is good, it's more or less a side effect of PR for them. I'll believe their intentions when the move out of all pla…

http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/blog/queen_city_agenda/...

Local Charlotte paper kind of agrees, it would be interesting to see companies pull out of places like China and Saudi Arabia, given the investment that has been made already, and the loss of growth that would come from that.

Essentially, the company would have to put social issues as a priority over being competitive, because I can assure you that someone else with lower morals would take that business. Would be a very hard stance for companies to take with share holders.

Re: PayPal Withdraws Plan for Charlotte Expansion

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post #2

Great political move on PayPals part. And good social move to put pressure on the politics of NC. But... This is mostly for show. If they really meant it they would not do business in Uganda, DRC, Kazakhstan, etc. places where it's de jure illegal to be out as LGBT. So, while the side effect of their PR is good, it's more or less a side effect of PR for them. I'll believe their intentions when the move out of all pla…

Exactly, it's virtue signaling.

This week, it's fashionable to attack and punish North Carolina. Next week, it will be somewhere else, probably also in the US.

But Paypal will never cease business in Saudi Arabia or anywhere in the Muslim world where the government executes gay people.

We shouldn't celebrate or support people "standing for their beliefs" when they're not actually risking anything.

Re: PayPal Withdraws Plan for Charlotte Expansion

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Absolutely shameful for PayPal. This is not about equality and inclusion, but rather about using government violence to force people to support that which they oppose.

A black baker should not be required to bake a cake for the KKK; a homosexual florist should not be required to provide flowers to the Westboro Baptist Church; neither should a Christian baker or florist or software developer be forced to employ his art and skill in service of something which he opposes, and which opposes his belief system.

Re: PayPal Withdraws Plan for Charlotte Expansion

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post #7

Absolutely shameful for PayPal. This is not about equality and inclusion, but rather about using government violence to force people to support that which they oppose. A black baker should not be required to bake a cake for the KKK; a homosexual florist should not be required to provide flowers to the Westboro Baptist Church; neither should a Christian baker or florist or software developer be forced to employ his ar…

But PayPal should be required to exist in NC?
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