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Re: Player stuck in an eternal Civ II war

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I love how this sim makes you a tyrannic psychopath.

As if one man was the Nation and that people had no rights on their own lives and could not have a free will.

These games are wrong on so many level.

Some RPG can transform your psyche, like the jail experiment in SF has proven. Civlization/colonization have let me with a bitter taste in the mouth as a player once I realized how it was making me think, in the real world.

Since then, I uninstalled all of these games.

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Re: Player stuck in an eternal Civ II war

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I love how this sim makes you a tyrannic psychopath. As if one man was the Nation and that people had no rights on their own lives and could not have a free will. These games are wrong on so many level. Some RPG can transform your psyche, like the jail experiment in SF has proven. Civlization/colonization have let me with a bitter taste in the mouth as a player once I realized how it was making me think, in the real…

Have you tried Crusader Kings 2? It's a strategy game which tries to simulate all the people from courtiers to kings all with their own motivations.

Re: Player stuck in an eternal Civ II war

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TL;DR

Man plays a single Civ II game, locked in a 3-way stalemate, for 10 years (2000 in-game years).

He asks reddit for advice on ending the stalemate, posting his savegame. Quickly a community forms around it. Fans post not only strategies but also art and fiction.

The game and related discussions have also been added to collections in the Stanford University Libraries.

Re: Player stuck in an eternal Civ II war

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I love how this sim makes you a tyrannic psychopath. As if one man was the Nation and that people had no rights on their own lives and could not have a free will. These games are wrong on so many level. Some RPG can transform your psyche, like the jail experiment in SF has proven. Civlization/colonization have let me with a bitter taste in the mouth as a player once I realized how it was making me think, in the real…

You play as a civilization not as a individual human (yes technically you are "Abraham Lincoln" but are you to believe that lives to be 2000 years old?) and when you select democracy as a government type the population will begin to have civil unrest if you go to war to much,

Re: Player stuck in an eternal Civ II war

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I love how this sim makes you a tyrannic psychopath. As if one man was the Nation and that people had no rights on their own lives and could not have a free will. These games are wrong on so many level. Some RPG can transform your psyche, like the jail experiment in SF has proven. Civlization/colonization have let me with a bitter taste in the mouth as a player once I realized how it was making me think, in the real…

Have you tried Crusader Kings 2? It's a strategy game which tries to simulate all the people from courtiers to kings all with their own motivations.

And Europa Universalis IV, the sequel in the series, has you leading one of the nations at the dawn of the European Age of Colonization. Colonial genocide, holy wars, force-conversion, and state executions to quell rebellions are all explicit game mechanics.

Re: Player stuck in an eternal Civ II war

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I love how this sim makes you a tyrannic psychopath. As if one man was the Nation and that people had no rights on their own lives and could not have a free will. These games are wrong on so many level. Some RPG can transform your psyche, like the jail experiment in SF has proven. Civlization/colonization have let me with a bitter taste in the mouth as a player once I realized how it was making me think, in the real…

Have you tried Crusader Kings 2? It's a strategy game which tries to simulate all the people from courtiers to kings all with their own motivations.

Last night, I was playing Crusader Kings 2 as the Byzantine Empire. I had just conquered Jerusalem in a holy war (after the Catholics failed to take it in a crusade, ha!) and everything was good. I had tons of money rolling in, I was secure in my realm with a son groomed to inherit, and I was thinking about expanding further south to take Alexandria. I figured it was a good time to call it a night at about 11:30pm.

I was just squashing a peasant uprising before going to bed when suddenly the Shia caliph -- the same guy I just stole Jerusalem from -- declared a jihad for Anatolia! Their armies start moving north into Armenia and Anatolia and while I was trying to get enough of my troops in one place to fend them off, some vassals decided to shift their votes and nominate the Exarch of Greece as heir to the empire instead of my son. Stupid elective succession.

I had to get rid of him, because I was about 45 years old and sick with pneumonia. If I lost the empire then my son would just be a random duke with a few counties. It'd probably be a generation before I could retake the empire. But my council wouldn't let me revoke his title because too many of them owed him favours. I had him excommunicated, but that didn't help, and I couldn't imprison him because I'd almost certainly fail and I couldn't have him rebelling while I'm fighting the Muslims.

So I spied on him until I got a chance to abduct and imprison him. Great, now what do I do to get rid of him without angering all my vassals? Executing him would incur tyranny. Should I blind him? That's a big deal to Greeks; they wouldn't vote for a blind emperor right? Or just throw him in the Oubliette and hope he dies before I do?

Next thing I know it's 1:30am and I have to be up in the morning.

Re: Player stuck in an eternal Civ II war

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Have you tried Crusader Kings 2? It's a strategy game which tries to simulate all the people from courtiers to kings all with their own motivations.

Last night, I was playing Crusader Kings 2 as the Byzantine Empire. I had just conquered Jerusalem in a holy war (after the Catholics failed to take it in a crusade, ha!) and everything was good. I had tons of money rolling in, I was secure in my realm with a son groomed to inherit, and I was thinking about expanding further south to take Alexandria. I figured it was a good time to call it a night at about 11:30pm. I…

That sounds fun. Can i play it on linux?

Re: Player stuck in an eternal Civ II war

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last night, I was playing Crusader Kings 2 as the Byzantine Empire. I had just conquered Jerusalem in a holy war (after the Catholics failed to take it in a crusade, ha!) and everything was good. I had tons of money rolling in, I was secure in my realm with a son groomed to inherit, and I was thinking about expanding further south to take Alexandria. I figured it was a good time to call it a night at about 11:30pm. I…

That sounds fun. Can i play it on linux?

Yes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusader_Kings_II

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