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How Do You Say “Life” in Physics?

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Re: How Do You Say “Life” in Physics?

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All persistent dynamic structures are fundamentally circular motion. And there has to be an energy gradient to drive the motion against the resistence that is required to reproduce.

So, imagine a torus in a bath of molecules such that the torus rotates in proportion to the flux of light through it's hole. The torus rotates not like a steering wheel, but around itself (called poloidal rotation), such that the inside squeezes together and the outside expands. This might catch molecules from the surrounding bath, expanding the torus, changing it's shape. It would also tend to change it's relationship to incident light.

At some point, the torus could "shed" a second torus, roughly equal to it's original, smaller shape, which would participate with the environment in the same way, aggregating energy and matter to reproduce itself, until either all light is consumed, all free matter is consumed, or both.

Anyway, I'm not sure if this is all that realistic - but I think it captures the important quality of "life" when it comes to physics, mainly that life is circular motion that has the general character of memory and reproduction.

Re: How Do You Say “Life” in Physics?

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non-live systems follow the entropy maximization gradient, ie. they maximize entropy only locally. Live systems increase entropy beyond that is possible by only following the gradient, ie. live systems maximize the total entropy integrated over whole space-time path of the given system.

Re: How Do You Say “Life” in Physics?

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non-live systems follow the entropy maximization gradient, ie. they maximize entropy only locally. Live systems increase entropy beyond that is possible by only following the gradient, ie. live systems maximize the total entropy integrated over whole space-time path of the given system.

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Re: How Do You Say “Life” in Physics?

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> For instance, there is no English translation for the Japanese wabi-sabi—the idea of finding beauty in imperfection—or for the German waldeinsamkeit, the feeling of being alone in the woods.

Writers who proclaim that English has no translation for word x from language y, only to provide a matter-of-fact translation in the very next clause/sentence always make me chuckle.

Or they provoke pedantic ire. Depends on how much sleep I've had. :p

Re: How Do You Say “Life” in Physics?

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All persistent dynamic structures are fundamentally circular motion. And there has to be an energy gradient to drive the motion against the resistence that is required to reproduce. So, imagine a torus in a bath of molecules such that the torus rotates in proportion to the flux of light through it's hole. The torus rotates not like a steering wheel, but around itself (called poloidal rotation), such that the inside s…

>life is circular motion that has the general character of memory and reproduction.

This is totally random but that bit reminded me of a quote from Black Elk Speaks:

>Everything the Power of the World does is done in a circle. The sky is round, and I have heard that the earth is round like a ball, and so are all the stars. The wind, in its greatest power whirls. Birds make their nest in circles, for theirs is the same religion as ours. The sun comes forth and goes down again in a circle. The moon does the same and both are round. Even the seasons form a great circle in their changing, and always come back again to where they were. The life of a man is a circle from childhood to childhood, and so it is in everything where power moves. Our tepees were round like the nests of birds, and these were always set in a circle, the nation's hoop.

Re: How Do You Say “Life” in Physics?

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> For instance, there is no English translation for the Japanese wabi-sabi—the idea of finding beauty in imperfection—or for the German waldeinsamkeit, the feeling of being alone in the woods. Writers who proclaim that English has no translation for word x from language y , only to provide a matter-of-fact translation in the very next clause/sentence always make me chuckle. Or they provoke pedantic ire. Depends on ho…

word != phrase

Re: How Do You Say “Life” in Physics?

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post #7

> For instance, there is no English translation for the Japanese wabi-sabi—the idea of finding beauty in imperfection—or for the German waldeinsamkeit, the feeling of being alone in the woods. Writers who proclaim that English has no translation for word x from language y , only to provide a matter-of-fact translation in the very next clause/sentence always make me chuckle. Or they provoke pedantic ire. Depends on ho…

word != phrase

There aren't translations for a lot of German words then...
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