Oracle's letter to Russian IT companies

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Post by daamien » Sat, Mar 19, 2016, 9:36 AM UTC

Oracle's letter to Russian IT companies
postgresql.org

Re: Oracle's letter to Russian IT companies

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Post by daamien » Sat, Mar 19, 2016, 9:39 AM UTC

direct link to the PDF : http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/attachment/43080/Postgr...

Re: Oracle's letter to Russian IT companies

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Post by metachris » Sat, Mar 19, 2016, 12:47 PM UTC

daamien wrote: post #2

direct link to the PDF : http://www.postgresql.org/message-id/attachment/43080/Postgr...

This is the PDF in English (via Google Translate): https://www.metachris.com/download/PostgreSQL_Oracle_en.pdf

Re: Oracle's letter to Russian IT companies

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Post by vamur » Sat, Mar 19, 2016, 12:49 PM UTC

Postgresql's greatest advantage - no headache from dealing with BS from Oracle or MS.

Re: Oracle's letter to Russian IT companies

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Post by ioltas » Sat, Mar 19, 2016, 1:01 PM UTC

I would be curious to see the evolution of the revenue of Oracle in Russia for 2016 Q1, including its Y2Y growth and the direct effects of the introduction of this law. The sole existence of this letter is proving that revenue took a serious hit.

Re: Oracle's letter to Russian IT companies

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Post by joelhaasnoot » Sat, Mar 19, 2016, 1:05 PM UTC

vamur wrote: post #4

Postgresql's greatest advantage - no headache from dealing with BS from Oracle or MS.

Pay hundreds of thousands in support contracts, get peanuts (and/or worse advice than the documentation).

Re: Oracle's letter to Russian IT companies

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Post by je42 » Sat, Mar 19, 2016, 1:26 PM UTC

Oracle gets desperate ;)

Re: Oracle's letter to Russian IT companies

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Post by davidgerard » Sat, Mar 19, 2016, 1:38 PM UTC

Let me say again how our workplace conversion from Oracle to Postgres has made EVERYTHING SO MUCH BETTER. Not just from never having to talk to Oracle ever again - but the fact that we can give every app its own PG clustered pair without ever having to think the word "license". Nothing has to play nice with anything else.

(We also have some MySQL - from old in-house apps and from third-party things like Drupal, Magento, WordPress and MediaWiki - and some MongoDB, which we're pushing to get converted to Postgres because it does key-value comparably fast and means one less dependency, though that's nothing like as urgent as getting off Oracle was.)

Re: Oracle's letter to Russian IT companies

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Post by vetinari » Sat, Mar 19, 2016, 1:51 PM UTC

joelhaasnoot wrote: post #6

vamur wrote: post #4

Postgresql's greatest advantage - no headache from dealing with BS from Oracle or MS.

Pay hundreds of thousands in support contracts, get peanuts (and/or worse advice than the documentation).

Using Oracle product in a non-Oracle VM?

Now you get the privilege to pay licensing for all the cores in your environment where you can migrate the VM to.

With such a policy, what could possibly go wrong?

Re: Oracle's letter to Russian IT companies

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Post by smoyer » Sat, Mar 19, 2016, 1:53 PM UTC

vamur wrote: post #4

Postgresql's greatest advantage - no headache from dealing with BS from Oracle or MS.

+1

We have been building/rebuilding our applications on top of PostgreSQL but there are still a lot of departments that buy the "Oracle is better / We need paid support" propaganda. Props to Russia for their forward thinking views.