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AlphaGo given honorary 9 dan rank by Korean Baduk Association

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I suspect that with time Lee may be able to even out the advantage. It would be surprising if AlphaGo hadn't be trained on historic matches with Lee giving him an early edge until Lee can adapt.

Probably one of the most exciting achievements in AI in a little while.

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I suspect that with time Lee may be able to even out the advantage. It would be surprising if AlphaGo hadn't be trained on historic matches with Lee giving him an early edge until Lee can adapt. Probably one of the most exciting achievements in AI in a little while.

AlphaGo hasn't been trained on Lee's games.

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I suspect that with time Lee may be able to even out the advantage. It would be surprising if AlphaGo hadn't be trained on historic matches with Lee giving him an early edge until Lee can adapt. Probably one of the most exciting achievements in AI in a little while.

AlphaGo hasn't been trained on Lee's games.

David Silver of Google DeepMind has stated that the program has not been specifically trained using Lee's previous games.

"specifically" Not that he was not trained on his games at all

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

AlphaGo hasn't been trained on Lee's games.

David Silver of Google DeepMind has stated that the program has not been specifically trained using Lee's previous games. "specifically" Not that he was not trained on his games at all

It was in the press conference for Game 4 IIRC.

Re: AlphaGo given honorary 9 dan rank by Korean Baduk Association

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I suspect that with time Lee may be able to even out the advantage. It would be surprising if AlphaGo hadn't be trained on historic matches with Lee giving him an early edge until Lee can adapt. Probably one of the most exciting achievements in AI in a little while.

I think one of the most interesting things is it was mostly trained on millions of games against itself. Therefore the professional level moves its playing are just emergent strategy.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

David Silver of Google DeepMind has stated that the program has not been specifically trained using Lee's previous games. "specifically" Not that he was not trained on his games at all

It was in the press conference for Game 4 IIRC.

Also in the pre-game commentary for game 3.

It was mentioned that AlphaGo was trained on so many games that the games of Lee Sedol that were used for training were not more than a drop in the ocean. This was the answer to the question about whether AlphaGo was trained specifically against Lee Sedol.

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I suspect that with time Lee may be able to even out the advantage. It would be surprising if AlphaGo hadn't be trained on historic matches with Lee giving him an early edge until Lee can adapt. Probably one of the most exciting achievements in AI in a little while.

At the press conference after the 4th game it was mentioned that AlphaGo was not trained on professional games at all.

They used strong amateur player games from public archives.

It was also mentioned that AlphaGo needs millions of games to be trained. Even if they added a few hundred Lee Sedol games, the impact would be very small.

Re: AlphaGo given honorary 9 dan rank by Korean Baduk Association

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I love the spirit with which the Baduk Association, and human Go players in general are taking this. A spirit of competition and respect. To think that, in defeat, an organisation of a human game thousands of years old would award their highest honorary title to an AI? Bodes well for human/machine relations. Perhaps we will see them more as precocious and gifted children, than competetors, in who's strong arms we shall be protected later in life :)

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I suspect that with time Lee may be able to even out the advantage. It would be surprising if AlphaGo hadn't be trained on historic matches with Lee giving him an early edge until Lee can adapt. Probably one of the most exciting achievements in AI in a little while.

At the press conference after the 4th game it was mentioned that AlphaGo was not trained on professional games at all. They used strong amateur player games from public archives. It was also mentioned that AlphaGo needs millions of games to be trained. Even if they added a few hundred Lee Sedol games, the impact would be very small.

You are correct. They used the large number of amateur games from the KGS Go server.

By the way, AlphaGo has a wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AlphaGo

And the Nature paper is: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v529/n7587/full/nature1... (paywalled, but scihub can get it for you). The paper is fairly readable, and worth having a look at if you are interested in this topic.

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