The dark side of big data
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The dark side of big data
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Re: The dark side of big data
#2It should focus on:
what data was used,
how was that data collected
what the original purpose of the collection
How did the data move from the collecting administration
to abusive administration
It seems like there should be a wealth of historical examples. What data did the Stasi have, Mao's china, the purges of intellectuals in russia and SE Asia. I bet there are even records of Torquemada's Inquisition.It'd be interesting to learn something like guilt has historically been assigned based on friendships or family relationships rather than evidence of wrongdoing- that would be pretty damning in the context of metadata collection.
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#3I wish there was a book detailing historic government abuses of data. It should focus on: what data was used, how was that data collected what the original purpose of the collection How did the data move from the collecting administration to abusive administration It seems like there should be a wealth of historical examples. What data did the Stasi have, Mao's china, the purges of intellectuals in russia and SE Asia…
Re: The dark side of big data
#4I wish there was a book detailing historic government abuses of data. It should focus on: what data was used, how was that data collected what the original purpose of the collection How did the data move from the collecting administration to abusive administration It seems like there should be a wealth of historical examples. What data did the Stasi have, Mao's china, the purges of intellectuals in russia and SE Asia…
Groups, government or otherwise, have done great evil with very little information (by today's standards) - http://jacquesmattheij.com/if-you-have-nothing-to-hide
My point is, an authoratative reference listing all the available historical examples could be an important educational tool as policymakers and the public try and decide how our society should treat data.
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#5Earlier quoted context omitted.
Groups, government or otherwise, have done great evil with very little information (by today's standards) - http://jacquesmattheij.com/if-you-have-nothing-to-hide
The author is on the right track talking about how the Amsterdam census was used by the Nazis to track down Jewish people. But it's just a passing reference in a blog post about why "nothing to hide" is a bad idea. My point is, an authoratative reference listing all the available historical examples could be an important educational tool as policymakers and the public try and decide how our society should treat data.
Re: The dark side of big data
#6I wish there was a book detailing historic government abuses of data. It should focus on: what data was used, how was that data collected what the original purpose of the collection How did the data move from the collecting administration to abusive administration It seems like there should be a wealth of historical examples. What data did the Stasi have, Mao's china, the purges of intellectuals in russia and SE Asia…
Re: The dark side of big data
#7I wish there was a book detailing historic government abuses of data. It should focus on: what data was used, how was that data collected what the original purpose of the collection How did the data move from the collecting administration to abusive administration It seems like there should be a wealth of historical examples. What data did the Stasi have, Mao's china, the purges of intellectuals in russia and SE Asia…
Edward Snowden has documented extensively what is NSA is doing with big data, same goes for British intelligence. But it always them(Russians, bad asians, stazi) but not us (democratic Americans, westerners etc etc). You get my point eh?
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Edward Snowden has documented extensively what is NSA is doing with big data, same goes for British intelligence. But it always them(Russians, bad asians, stazi) but not us (democratic Americans, westerners etc etc). You get my point eh?
At least the NSA hasn't used the data to conduct large-scale campaigns of imprisonment and murder (so far). In an investigation of the sort the GP describes, it would make sense to start with the worst abuses of the data; though less-bad abuses should also be included.
That's counterproductive, because it's very bad PR in the long run. The modern way to abuse data is through "parallel construction", which allows for very efficient COINTELPRO-style targeting of anyone that would bring people together. There's a reason modern mass-surveillance technology is mapping relationships.
Limiting our right to assemble has been happening for a long time (remember "free speech zones"?). Before any serious challenge to a power can happen, the people involved first have to realize other like-minded people exist, that they don't have to challenge power alone.
(if anybody things this is implausible, I suggest re-reading the documents about JTRIG)
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#9Re: The dark side of big data
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
At least the NSA hasn't used the data to conduct large-scale campaigns of imprisonment and murder (so far). In an investigation of the sort the GP describes, it would make sense to start with the worst abuses of the data; though less-bad abuses should also be included.
> large-scale campaigns of imprisonment and murder That's counterproductive, because it's very bad PR in the long run. The modern way to abuse data is through "parallel construction", which allows for very efficient COINTELPRO-style targeting of anyone that would bring people together. There's a reason modern mass-surveillance technology is mapping relationships . Limiting our right to assemble has been happening for…