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VMware's Stumbling Cloud Adventure

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Re: VMware's Stumbling Cloud Adventure

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Can a mod (or OP) change this submission's title? "VMware's Stumbling Cloud Adventure" is an editorializing of "VMware's Cloud Adventure", especially since the word bumbling never occurs in the post.

@OP HN guidelines say "please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait" https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: VMware's Stumbling Cloud Adventure

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Can a mod (or OP) change this submission's title? "VMware's Stumbling Cloud Adventure" is an editorializing of "VMware's Cloud Adventure", especially since the word bumbling never occurs in the post. @OP HN guidelines say "please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait" https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I agree with your suggestion (despite the fact that the additional word might be very accurate in this particular case).

Re: VMware's Stumbling Cloud Adventure

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Can a mod (or OP) change this submission's title? "VMware's Stumbling Cloud Adventure" is an editorializing of "VMware's Cloud Adventure", especially since the word bumbling never occurs in the post. @OP HN guidelines say "please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait" https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I agree with your suggestion (despite the fact that the additional word might be very accurate in this particular case).

Also, the article's cloud illustration is not of a sunny day.

Re: VMware's Stumbling Cloud Adventure

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> They've already started that with containers. Docker orchestration platforms like Kubernetes and Mesos are still rough around the edges and there is room in the space for VMware to get in and leverage the benefit of their size and engineering bench.

VMWare started doing this circa 2010-11.

Eventually that project turned into the first version of Cloud Foundry.

Edit: forgot my usual disclaimer that I work for Pivotal etc etc

Re: VMware's Stumbling Cloud Adventure

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Can a mod (or OP) change this submission's title? "VMware's Stumbling Cloud Adventure" is an editorializing of "VMware's Cloud Adventure", especially since the word bumbling never occurs in the post. @OP HN guidelines say "please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait" https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

My bad, lesson learned.

Re: VMware's Stumbling Cloud Adventure

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> They've already started that with containers. Docker orchestration platforms like Kubernetes and Mesos are still rough around the edges and there is room in the space for VMware to get in and leverage the benefit of their size and engineering bench. VMWare started doing this circa 2010-11. Eventually that project turned into the first version of Cloud Foundry. Edit: forgot my usual disclaimer that I work for Pivota…

I was really thinking about the vSphere integrated container stuff, but yes, that's a good point.

Re: VMware's Stumbling Cloud Adventure

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It wasn't myopia. VMWare suffered from the same thing that other companies have gone through. They tried/are trying not to cannibalize their main source of revenue, and the world has moved on without them. CloudFoundry was their way of attempting to control the conversation, but it failed.

They couldn't go from a lucrative private cloud revenue stream and then somehow convert it to a public cloud and expect to make the same amount of money. During that time that was mentioned, from 2006 until probably 2010/2011, AWS was great for small companies, but there were still issues with security, availability, reliability, etc, so VMware could get away with selling the private cloud.

I mentioned this is another post that got a lot of vehement comments, but virtualization itself is dying. Not dead, but dying. Many large companies with their own datacenters are running off of bare metal, and this will be the trend going forward. Yes, virtualization is still in many private datacenters, but bare metal is how newer companies are going, and in 10 years, I bet virtualization will be gone from all but the slowest of private datacenters. It's a level of overheard now that has been completely circumvented as unnecessary for the most part, and it will fall into disfavor as more and more people learn techniques on how to avoid it altogether.

This doesn't mean that VMware will be gone in 10 years. Even WinZip to this day has something like $50-75M/year in annual revenue. But it will be relegated as a legacy app.

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