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Ied: Like npm, but faster – an alternative package manager for Node

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Post by Nervetattoo » Mon, Jan 25, 2016, 5:15 PM UTC

Ied: Like npm, but faster – an alternative package manager for Node
gugel.io

Re: Ied: Like npm, but faster – an alternative package manager for Node

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Post by bitwarrior » Mon, Jan 25, 2016, 6:42 PM UTC

What an unfortunate name.

Re: Ied: Like npm, but faster – an alternative package manager for Node

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Post by RichWalton » Mon, Jan 25, 2016, 6:50 PM UTC

bitwarrior wrote: post #2

What an unfortunate name.

Agreed. Fortunately the dev(s) look to be in the process of renaming to "Nom" (https://github.com/alexanderGugel/ied/issues/29)

Re: Ied: Like npm, but faster – an alternative package manager for Node

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Post by RichWalton » Mon, Jan 25, 2016, 6:53 PM UTC

A quick test shows this to be _much_ faster than NPM 2 (Browserify ~8s vs ~27s using NPM 2). I've been on the look out for a faster NPM given it takes 30m to install dependencies for an application I work on :(

Unfortunately IED (Soon to be renamed "NOM") doesn't support Git dependencies :(

Re: Ied: Like npm, but faster – an alternative package manager for Node

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Post by k__ » Mon, Jan 25, 2016, 8:33 PM UTC

RichWalton wrote: post #4

A quick test shows this to be _much_ faster than NPM 2 (Browserify ~8s vs ~27s using NPM 2). I've been on the look out for a faster NPM given it takes 30m to install dependencies for an application I work on :( Unfortunately IED (Soon to be renamed "NOM") doesn't support Git dependencies :(

Does it support native modules?

Re: Ied: Like npm, but faster – an alternative package manager for Node

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Post by k__ » Mon, Jan 25, 2016, 8:40 PM UTC

It's nice that it takes some ideas from Nix, but it would even nicer if the time spent would go directly into Nix ;)

I'm considering switching to npm2nix and Nix for my projects, because I got burned by NPM far too often. Also Nix can be used for all software, not only NPM stuff. With NixOS it also ties a nice "package", haha

Re: Ied: Like npm, but faster – an alternative package manager for Node

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Post by z3t4 » Mon, Jan 25, 2016, 9:25 PM UTC

I find it very confusing with flat node_modules as it doesn't hide complexity.

Re: Ied: Like npm, but faster – an alternative package manager for Node

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Post by EvanPlaice » Mon, Jan 25, 2016, 9:30 PM UTC

z3t4 wrote: post #7

I find it very confusing with flat node_modules as it doesn't hide complexity.

Well, NPM is changing to a flat structure in V3.

Complexity isn't much of a concern since all dependencies should (ideally) me automatically managed by NPM.

The greater benefit is reduced duplication and reducing excessive folder nesting. The former saves space and the time required to download dependencies, the latter solves some serious issues with using NPM on windows.

Re: Ied: Like npm, but faster – an alternative package manager for Node

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Post by z3t4 » Mon, Jan 25, 2016, 9:41 PM UTC

EvanPlaice wrote: post #8

z3t4 wrote: post #7

I find it very confusing with flat node_modules as it doesn't hide complexity.

Well, NPM is changing to a flat structure in V3. Complexity isn't much of a concern since all dependencies should (ideally) me automatically managed by NPM. The greater benefit is reduced duplication and reducing excessive folder nesting. The former saves space and the time required to download dependencies, the latter solves some serious issues with using NPM on windows.

Yes, I noticed that when I upgraded; spent several hours debugging before I found out that was the problem (I had both flat and nested, where prod used the old, and my tests used the new)