80 front-end job applications – nearly no one had basic HTML/CSS/A11y skills
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Re: 80 front-end job applications – nearly no one had basic HTML/CSS/A11y skills
#2Provide an example you saw.
Re: 80 front-end job applications – nearly no one had basic HTML/CSS/A11y skills
#3And almost no backend developers can write assembler either!
It's almost like we've spent decades layering abstractions on this stuff so we don't have to wrangle it ourselves, isn't it.
Re: 80 front-end job applications – nearly no one had basic HTML/CSS/A11y skills
#4Do you think any of those things are difficult to learn? You certainly don't seem to think so. It's like you're looking for reasons to throw up your hands and not hire anyone.
Re: 80 front-end job applications – nearly no one had basic HTML/CSS/A11y skills
#5At 80 people it might start being the time to question whether its really everyone else thats unskilled or your approach to evaluation is wrong.
Asking a pop quiz of arbitrary tools / techniques that you happen to have remember really isn't a good way to evaluate if someone is a good developer. I am a good developer and I only just remember what clearfix is, I most certainly couldnt explain how it works.
Re: 80 front-end job applications – nearly no one had basic HTML/CSS/A11y skills
#6And almost no backend developers can write assembler either! It's almost like we've spent decades layering abstractions on this stuff so we don't have to wrangle it ourselves, isn't it.
There are no useful abstractions that will let you fail to understand how HTML and CSS work.
Re: 80 front-end job applications – nearly no one had basic HTML/CSS/A11y skills
#7Very seriously doubt this.
It seems that his gripe is more with people being unfamiliar with certain accessibility tools that he likes.
That doesn't grab headlines like claiming nobody knows basic html and css so though, so he threw that in front.
Re: 80 front-end job applications – nearly no one had basic HTML/CSS/A11y skills
#8And almost no backend developers can write assembler either! It's almost like we've spent decades layering abstractions on this stuff so we don't have to wrangle it ourselves, isn't it.
There are no useful abstractions that will let you fail to understand how HTML and CSS work.
Nobody wants to understand how CSS works. Sometimes we have to, but it's rarely by choice.
Re: 80 front-end job applications – nearly no one had basic HTML/CSS/A11y skills
#9Just use some automated coding test like Codility:
https://codility.com/
Even an easy JavaScript programming tasks can filter a lot of applications so you can concentrate on best candidates.
Re: 80 front-end job applications – nearly no one had basic HTML/CSS/A11y skills
#10At 80 people it might start being the time to question whether its really everyone else thats unskilled or your approach to evaluation is wrong. Asking a pop quiz of arbitrary tools / techniques that you happen to have remember really isn't a good way to evaluate if someone is a good developer. I am a good developer and I only just remember what clearfix is, I most certainly couldnt explain how it works.
Totally agree. I see front end job descriptions asking for understanding of Java and .Net but no mentioning of JS, CSS or any HTML. There could be easily a miscommunication of misunderstanding what the company want. Not saying the job description used here is wrong, just an example of miscommunication.