What was the job market like for new grads after the 2000 and 2008 crashes? • Hacker News Board

Post by anshukla » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 8:27 PM UTC

I am going to be graduating from an undergrad CS program soon. I have a full-time offer in an engineering role at a large tech company and multiple internships. However, I strongly want to stay in school for another year to get a Masters in a more analytical field (top 5 program) and hopefully move into Data Science/Engineering positions. There is a possibility that I could transfer from my current offered role at this company into such a position after a year as well.

I am afraid of rejecting this offer to stay in school only to find that I'm joining the labor force in 2017 in a down market. I think it's fairly reasonable that we will be going through our once-a-decade downturn sooner rather than later. Is this a legitimate fear? Should I be concerned about starting my career at at time when beggars can't be choosers? Is the plan to work and transfer likely to have better outcomes?

Post by nostrademons » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 8:44 PM UTC

Harsh, very harsh. I have friends who graduated in 09 who are only now getting permanent professional positions. I'm not as close with the class of 00/01, but my understanding is that they also faced significant difficulties. I was lucky enough to graduate in 05, one of the four years (04-07) within the first 15 years of this millenia where it was reasonably easy to get an entry-level job. As a result, I had 4 years of good work experience when I ended up at Google in 09. I'm not sure I could've pulled off the same thing as a fresh grad, given that they were barely hiring.

The National Bureau of Economic Research published some research into the effects of graduating into a recession, and it takes about 10 years to catch up:

http://www.nber.org/digest/nov06/w12159.html

If I were you, I would take the full-time engineering role at a big company and then look at doing a masters part-time. Many of the big companies have tuition reimbursement, and as a fresh grad, you have more time available than someone with a family and career responsibilities. Then, when you've got the masters and a couple years of work experience under your belt, switch into the job you really want.