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Facebook submits to the TRAI supporting differential pricing of data [pdf]

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It's remarkable that a company that stands strongly in favour of net neutrality in the US is so strongly against it in India. Speak of double standards.

So strong against it, they've spent $44 million in ads to tell the public to oppose net neutrality and instead support something they're calling "digital equality", aka free Facebook (and friends) without data charges.

Source for $44 million figure: https://twitter.com/raju/status/686000321965985793

Re: Facebook submits to the TRAI supporting differential pricing of data [pdf]

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post #2

It's remarkable that a company that stands strongly in favour of net neutrality in the US is so strongly against it in India. Speak of double standards. So strong against it, they've spent $44 million in ads to tell the public to oppose net neutrality and instead support something they're calling "digital equality", aka free Facebook (and friends) without data charges. Source for $44 million figure: https://twitter.c…

why would they do that? isnt this public and wouldnt it be against what they stand for?? are u sure about what u say??

Re: Facebook submits to the TRAI supporting differential pricing of data [pdf]

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It's remarkable that a company that stands strongly in favour of net neutrality in the US is so strongly against it in India. Speak of double standards. So strong against it, they've spent $44 million in ads to tell the public to oppose net neutrality and instead support something they're calling "digital equality", aka free Facebook (and friends) without data charges. Source for $44 million figure: https://twitter.c…

>stands strongly in favour of net neutrality in the US

Could you provide some sources?

Re: Facebook submits to the TRAI supporting differential pricing of data [pdf]

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Would Facebook exist today, if there were a gatekeeper (AOL, Google, Yahoo?) that needed to approve it as a "Basic service", that had exclusive access to a billion users?

This Anti-competitive practice is as notorious as the ones MSFT once engaged in at their peak, for which they still get a lot of negative press, decades later.

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post #2

It's remarkable that a company that stands strongly in favour of net neutrality in the US is so strongly against it in India. Speak of double standards. So strong against it, they've spent $44 million in ads to tell the public to oppose net neutrality and instead support something they're calling "digital equality", aka free Facebook (and friends) without data charges. Source for $44 million figure: https://twitter.c…

>stands strongly in favour of net neutrality in the US Could you provide some sources?

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/may/08/google-fac...

http://mashable.com/2014/05/08/fcc-letter-net-neutrality/#as...

Re: Facebook submits to the TRAI supporting differential pricing of data [pdf]

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post #2

It's remarkable that a company that stands strongly in favour of net neutrality in the US is so strongly against it in India. Speak of double standards. So strong against it, they've spent $44 million in ads to tell the public to oppose net neutrality and instead support something they're calling "digital equality", aka free Facebook (and friends) without data charges. Source for $44 million figure: https://twitter.c…

why would they do that? isnt this public and wouldnt it be against what they stand for?? are u sure about what u say??

OP is correct. This is precisely what Facebook is doing. They ran a huge print/outdoor/mobile/TV ad campaign demonizing net neutrality activists. They also ran an astroturfing campaign spamming the telecom regulator TRAI, which is now pissed at them for misleading advertising and abusing the consultation process.

Re: Facebook submits to the TRAI supporting differential pricing of data [pdf]

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did they do that? but how can they. didnt they say to FCC that such practices are against NN and how can they say this in INDIA. isnt it hypocrisy?

The FCC doesn't have jurisdiction in India. Super simple. Facebook, or other foreign capitalistic entities, can do basically whatever they want.

This could change when:

- The country puts more regulations on Internet service providers like the FCC does here (maybe this is happening? maybe this isn't? I'm not familiar with India ISP regulation entities), or

- The people say "No" and choose not to use this service. But that would mean saying "No" to free Internet access. Your boss and your spouse are on Facebook, why wouldn't you want to be? Or

- The politicians say "No" to foreign capitalistic companies. We see something like this in the EU (see their privacy laws and recent government draft legislation about keeping personally identifiable data about Europeans on European servers), and we also saw something like this in China, where the government effectively gets control of who to blacklist via the firewall and censorship policies. And we all know how popular those are.

Looks like there aren't many good solutions here.

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