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Stephen Hawking's New Black-Hole Paper, Translated: An Interview

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Re: Stephen Hawking's New Black-Hole Paper, Translated: An Interview

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My first question is, how much of this is provable, and how much is conjecture?

Does it matter? Theoretical physics is more of a game of logic rather than facts.

Edit: I apologize for being argumentative. Your question is somewhat intrinsic to the foundation of theoretical physics; given what we "know" now, what else can we logically deduce? There is no absolute answer, but that is part of the fun. :)

Re: Stephen Hawking's New Black-Hole Paper, Translated: An Interview

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My first question is, how much of this is provable, and how much is conjecture?

You can simulate the equations [1] and debate if it matches observed objects. http://arxiv.org/pdf/1601.00921v1.pdf

That would be tough since we've never actually observed an event horizon. We don't know if they even exist.

The only observations we have are of supermassive objects. Do they have event horizons? We assume so, but no one really knows.

Re: Stephen Hawking's New Black-Hole Paper, Translated: An Interview

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My first question is, how much of this is provable, and how much is conjecture?

All of it is conjecture.

That's one way to do physics: You start with conjecture and try to find ways to prove it. (You can also do the reverse, find some unexplained thing and derive rules.)

In this case it might be millennia before we can prove it though.

Re: Stephen Hawking's New Black-Hole Paper, Translated: An Interview

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can simulate the equations [1] and debate if it matches observed objects. http://arxiv.org/pdf/1601.00921v1.pdf

That would be tough since we've never actually observed an event horizon. We don't know if they even exist. The only observations we have are of supermassive objects. Do they have event horizons? We assume so, but no one really knows.

We may get an answer to that in the future via the Event Horizon Telescope [1] which plans to "directly observe the immediate environment of a black hole with angular resolution comparable to the event horizon."

[1] http://eventhorizontelescope.org/index.html

Re: Stephen Hawking's New Black-Hole Paper, Translated: An Interview

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My first question is, how much of this is provable, and how much is conjecture?

This is a wrong-headed question to ask about theoretical physics. People have this idea that you can just say crazy physics things and they might be true, but that's not even close to the case. If you want to reach the level of conjecture, there are some incredibly high hurdles to pass. Your conjecture has to be consistent with bothboth general relativity and quantum mechanics, probably the two most experimentally accurate and successful scientific theories in the history of the human race.

Here's a great lecture on this question of "well don't we need experiments? Is this all crazy physics conjecture?"

http://www.cornell.edu/video/nima-arkani-hamed-philosophy-of...

Black holes are the phenomena where quantum mechanics and gravity collide most intensely, and even theories of black hole physics compatible with both GR and QM are major achievements.

Edit: Although I agree the article is fairly opaque.

Re: Stephen Hawking's New Black-Hole Paper, Translated: An Interview

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Maybe a Black Hole destroys information, or perhaps it changes information to a form that we can't (yet) recognize. Presently, both of those states would look the same to us.

Did you have something specific in mind? Otherwise as I read your comment I should mention the 'recognizability' of the information is irrelevant to the paper. The paradox is about the differing predictions from general relativity and quantum mechanics, one of which implies that the information is lost and the other of which implies that the information is not (the form it takes is not important).
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